So it begins

[minestrone]

The sad drunk scotsman is correct for once in his deranged meanderings.

You vent spleen deliberately as you know I am the only openly Christian on the forum.

[Old Greg]

Explained via PM.

Er, no. I don't. I think the whole creationism theory is simply a bad anagram of cretinism. It's ain't theology, it ain't science. Most Christians aren't followers of thick American ideas concerning Christianity.

Not quite. You insist he was forced to take them, and that is manifestly not the case. He agreed to take the drugs when it was offered as an alternative to imprisonment. The sad drunk scotsman is correct for once in his deranged meanderings.

You may as well say that people forced to convert to Catholicism or be killed weren’t actually forced to convert.

[AtW]

Not quite. You insist he was forced to take them, and that is manifestly not the case. He agreed to take the drugs when it was offered as an alternative to imprisonment. The sad drunk scotsman is correct for once in his deranged meanderings.

He agreed under duress - threat of prison, and what would have happened to him there?

The fact is he was chemically castrated because he was gay, lost his clearance and ultimately poisoned himself. And if that happened to Alan Turing what was happening to others less known?

[minestrone]

"Most Christians aren't followers of thick American ideas concerning Christianity"

Jesus he loves me and he knows I'm right.

[minestrone]

He agreed under duress - threat of prison, and what would have happened to him there?

The fact is he was chemically castrated because he was gay, lost his clearance and ultimately poisoned himself. And if that happened to Alan Turing what was happening to others less known?

So, chemical castrated THEN poisoned.

It's like Puccini.

[minestrone]

Castrato mathematician turuno.

[BrilloPad]

You vent spleen deliberately as you know I am the only openly Christian on the forum.

The obnly Christian in the village?

[NotAllThere]

You vent spleen deliberately as you know I am the only openly Christian on the forum.

doogh.

You may as well say that people forced to convert to Catholicism or be killed weren’t actually forced to convert.

Not really. You might as well say people are forced to do that speeding course. Question of severity and scale. I don't think chemical castration nor imprisonment are something that should be done to gay people!

I'd choose imprisonment over drugs. YMMV. It was a choice. And at the time they did think homosexuality was something to be treated. Maybe Turing agreed?

Turing's death was found to be suicide. But the evidence was consistent with accident.

[BrilloPad]

I don't think chemical castration nor imprisonment are something that should be done to gay people!

Even WTFH?

[NotAllThere]

Even WTFH?

He's not gay (I think), so it seems perfectly appropriate.