So it begins

[Old Greg]

doogh.

Not really. You might as well say people are forced to do that speeding course. Question of severity and scale. I don't think chemical castration nor imprisonment are something that should be done to gay people!

I'd choose imprisonment over drugs. YMMV. It was a choice. And at the time they did think homosexuality was something to be treated. Maybe Turing agreed?

Turing's death was found to be suicide. But the evidence was consistent with accident.

People had a choice between conversion and death. You are making a very odd argument. Not sure why.

[minestrone]

He's not gay (I think), so it seems perfectly appropriate.

You have issues with homosexuality..

I respect your choice to be that way.

[minestrone]

People had a choice between conversion and death. You are making a very odd argument. Not sure why.

You mention conversion therapy. Is this something that has worked in your family?

[AtW]

People had a choice between conversion and death. You are making a very odd argument. Not sure why.

Socrates drunk poison voluntarily

[Old Greg]

Socrates drunk poison voluntarily

It’s all very Hobbesian.

[AtW]

Giordano Bruno voluntarily got burned - it was his choice

[minestrone]

People had a choice between conversion and death. You are making a very odd argument. Not sure why.

Are you honestly suggesting he had to die or be gay?

[AtW]

What would have happened to Turning had he ended up in prison instead?

[minestrone]

What would have happened to Turning had he ended up in prison instead?

[minestrone]

Turing was Scottish, a son of the manse.