No excreta Sherlock Holmes

[Paddy]

Like what motorists have been saying all along...

Carbon dioxide emissions from plug-in hybrid cars are as much as two-and-a-half times higher than official tests suggest, according to new research.

Plug-in hybrid vehicles are powered by an electric motor using a battery that is recharged by being plugged in or via an on-board petrol or diesel engine.

They account for 3% of new car sales.

But analysis from pressure groups Transport and Environment and Greenpeace suggest they emit an average of 120g of CO2 per km.

That compares with the 44g per km in official "lab" tests

Plug-in hybrids are a 'wolf in sheep's clothing' - BBC News

[_V_]

I think this is well known. It's like the MPG of a BMW i8 at 120 MPG. In real driving in the real world it's more like 35 MPG.

That's because at the start of the simulated journey it is allowed to start with a full battery. So basically for most of the test the engine isn't running. Result is almost no petrol used and no emissions.

To make it realistic they need to publish also figures where the battery is now dead and the car is running on fossil fuels only.

[NotAllThere]

Doesn't surprise me. Solar panels, for example, have a limited lifetime and contains all sorts of nasty metals that need to be disposed off, but usually go into landfill. Nuclear power is far cleaner.

[Mordac]

Doesn't surprise me. Solar panels, for example, have a limited lifetime and contains all sorts of nasty metals that need to be disposed off, but usually go into landfill. Nuclear power is far cleaner.

And much of the lithium in batteries comes from warzones, and even if it doesn't, it causes catastrophic environmental damage to extract. Still, if it makes one feel warm and fuzzy by claiming to drive an eco-friendly car, no-one has the right to burst that bubble. The bill they are going to get when the battery pack needs replacing will make me chuckle though. What price piety...?

[DealorNoDeal]

Can't really see the point of hybrids. Just more stuff in the car to go wrong for not much benefit in fuel consumption or emissions.

The self-charging ones seem even more pointless than the plug-ins.

[Old Greg]

And much of the lithium in batteries comes from warzones,

Too true.


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[BR14]

And much of the lithium in batteries comes from warzones, and even if it doesn't, it causes catastrophic environmental damage to extract

Too true.


Yuasa Battery Europe Ltd
13, Hunts Rise
South Marston Industrial Park
Swindon
SN3 4TG
United Kingdom

ooh, aaarrrr

Cornwall lithium deposits '''globally significant''' - BBC News

[northernladuk]

Too true.


Yuasa Battery Europe Ltd
13, Hunts Rise
South Marston Industrial Park
Swindon
SN3 4TG
United Kingdom

Excellent.

EDIT.. Oh.. hang on

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