Trump orders Bojo to kick out Huawei

[BlasterBates]

To be fair, this is actually Trump's doing. Had he not banned the Chinese using US chips as part of his childish trade war, meaning they have switched to their own brand ones, they could then potentially introduce their own interesting design features. All that's happened is that the risk profile has changed significantly and banning their use is merely the sensible option.

but hey, let's blame the UK. Far more fun...

Meanwhile the rest of Europe ploughs on full steam ahead with Huawei. In 5 years time their internet will be years ahead of the UK.

[elsergiovolador]

...because everybody is working in the Finance industry earning more than you would get in manufacturing telecommunications equipment.

If there was a huge effort to match Huawei, then the question would be "why are the Chinese so successful in Finance", and the answer would be because everyone is working on 5G telecom systems.


Globalisation means you can't do everything.

Is it really either or situation? I would think that government should unblock the skilled economy as it is currently heavily taxed and it is not financially viable and let private sector work. A lot of skill is being wasted because not everyone wants to work to pay extreme taxes.

[Paddy]

Meanwhile the rest of Europe ploughs on full steam ahead with Huawei. In 5 years time their internet will be years ahead of the UK.

Mobile Internet speeds 2020 sorted by county = speed > UK

country mobileSpeed
South Korea 97.44
Australia 63.34
Qatar 61.72
United Arab Emirates 61.24
Norway 60.9
Canada 60.72
Netherlands 59.54
Switzerland 54.42
Singapore 50.43
Malta 50.14
Albania 47.34
Belgium 47.05
New Zealand 46.26
Czech Republic 45.55
Croatia 45.31
Luxembourg 45.07
Lithuania 44.96
France 44.53
Austria 44.51
Sweden 43.76
Taiwan 43.66
Denmark 42.75
Estonia 42.62
Saudi Arabia 42.34
Serbia 42.15
Finland 41.26
Greece 40.71
Macedonia 39.5
Slovenia 38.69
Hungary 38.63
Cyprus 38.25
Oman 38.12
Kuwait 37.82
Romania 36.68
China 36.34
Turkey 35.82
Lebanon 35.49
United States 34.76
Montenegro 34.44
Moldova 34.32
Bosnia and Herzegovina 34.16
Germany 33.32
Italy 33.26
Mali 33.21
Spain 32.85
Slovakia 32.26
Portugal 32.04
Latvia 31.83
Poland 31.5
United Kingdom 31.33

[Mordac]

Should have been done long time ago, why didn't it happen?

Lord Browne quits as Huawei UK chairman as government ban looms | Business News | Sky News

Because Huawei was smart enough to hire people like Lord Browne and God knows who else (kids of politicians?) to stay in.

Big chlorinated chickens are coming home to roost.

Lord Browne (he was just John when I knew him, in the very early 90's) knew a thing or two about spending money on telecoms. He had leased lines from his house to the various offices, you don't want to know the line rental on those things back in the day. There was a very well stocked drinks cabinet in the Queen Victoria Street office, which I felt it was my duty to pillage before getting a taxi home on expenses, having gone there to fix a fault on the video-conferencing system (which cost around half-a-million to install), the fault being a mis-labelling on a patch-panel which took a few seconds to find and correct. He was a nice chap though. Which presumably means he doesn't know who drank his brandy...

[Mordac]

Meanwhile the rest of Europe ploughs on full steam ahead with Huawei. In 5 years time their internet will be years ahead of the UK.

What's the point of fast internet when the Chinese government knows your pin number and all your porn preferences?

[DimPrawn]

What's the point of fast internet when the Chinese government knows your pin number and all your porn preferences?

And all the EU scientific discoveries, member government plans, corporate trade secrets and engineering plans, passwords, personal data etc....

[Lockhouse]

How is it China gets to build Huawei in space of 10-15 years....

Copyright theft and espionage. The tales of people leaving their laptops in meeting rooms and the hard drives being cloned over lunch are not apocryphal.

[PCTNN]

Meanwhile the rest of Europe ploughs on full steam ahead with Huawei. In 5 years time their internet will be years ahead of the UK.

In 5 years time, all the UK will be is a country of fruit pickers. They don't need fast internet.

[BlasterBates]

And all the EU scientific discoveries, member government plans, corporate trade secrets and engineering plans, passwords, personal data etc....

You're looking at the wrong country.

US eaves dropped on initimate conversations

The NSA DOES listen to everything you do and say.

China does conduct espionage but it doesn't use its Huawei transmitters.

If it wants to copy the latest technology it will simply buy the product and take it apart.

[BlasterBates]

The clue as to how serious a security issue this is, is the fact that telecoms providers can continue to use Huawei for another 7 years. Not one incident of IP theft can be traced back to a Huawei transmitter, all of them are due to cyber hackers on the internet. Why would you go to the trouble spending billions on an undetectable back door when you can simply send a pfishing e-mail for a couple of dollars.