Churchill - antisemitic racist or war hero?

[Whorty]

And a chauvinist, and probably a kiddie fiddler and peeping tom.

Triggered much?

[Whorty]

Plenty evidence of Churchill's quote that would be 100% considered racist today. He's clearly a hero to the right who are blinkered and won't see anything negative said about him, which probably says more about them than it does Churchill.

[Old Greg]

Plenty evidence of Churchill's quote that would be 100% considered racist today. He's clearly a hero to the right who are blinkered and won't see anything negative said about him, which probably says more about them than it does Churchill.

Churchill's greatness is hard to deny, despite his flaws.

[SueEllen]

Yeah, protesters in Eastern Europe were very grateful to Stalin, for about 50 years

Stalin or Hitler - your choice?

Don't forget those from Eastern Europe weren't considered properly human by Hitler.

[billybiro]

Churchill was many things, some good some bad, but racist wasn't one of them. He was a major supporter of the Jewish community both in business and government....

Jewish isn't a race. It's a religion.

[AtW]

Stalin or Hitler - your choice?

Don't forget those from Eastern Europe weren't considered properly human by Hitler.

They were both terrible, but cumulative damage from the Soviet regime (especially under Stalin) is far higher, does not mean Nazies would not have topped it if they could have held up for 70 years, just both are very evil - and one still exists...

[Old Greg]

Jewish isn't a race. It's a religion.

Look up ethnicity. Consider that some Jewish people do not follow the Jewish religion. Accept that the subject is rather more nuanced than you think.

[Mordac]

I mean the dead one not ours.

It seems people are coming to the realisation that people are not black or white, good men can do bad things, and its very difficult to paint a person as one or the other

I'm guessing that if he was an anti-semitic racist, he'd have put a little less effort into defeating the ultimate anti-semitic racist, and instead laid out a very large red carpet. It's far from conclusive, as evidence goes, but Churchill was going against the grain at the time. Maybe it's time for our German friends to wheel out some Daily Mail headlines of the era?

[Scruff]

AFAIK, NorthWestPermaTractor and I are the only Semites (of differing cultures, though) that I know on CUK.

F**ked if I think that Winston Churchill (Not "Churchie", or his latest incarnation!) was an anti-semite...

DILLIGAF.

[malvolio]

Jewish isn't a race. It's a religion.

I was keeping it simple for the hard of thinking.

If I started talking about ethnicity or religious affiliation or long historical belief systems yo would only get confused.

And Judaism is a religion, Jewish is a description of people who had a Jewish mother.