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Family's heartbreak as carer, 21, dies of coronavirus with boyfriend by her side

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    #11
    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
    Then why are there people, mainly young men, walking around coughing on people? Or delibrately not giving people distance and smirking when it's noticed?
    Because there are always idiots, people with low IQ's. I generally hate young people, because they dont have sore backs and can drink without hangovers, but mostly I've seen them being careful and self isolating.

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      #12
      Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
      Then why are there people, mainly young men, walking around coughing on people? Or deliberately not giving people distance and smirking when it's noticed?
      Because there are nasty ignorant little in any population.
      Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!

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        #13
        Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
        Because there are nasty ignorant little in any population.
        Surely not in Swisstopia?
        Old Greg - In search of acceptance since Mar 2007. Hoping each leap will be his last.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Zigenare View Post
          Surely not in Swisstopia?
          Well I know some of you think there's at least one.
          Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!

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            #15
            This is really sad, but it's wrong to suggest she had no underlying conditions that put her at risk - she had asthma.

            I've had 2 major incidents of my asthma in the past 2 years, both times requiring steroids to bring under control (one of the incidents was triggered by a chest infection), yet I've not been classed as most vulnerable. Full blown asthma attack, lasting days, is no fun so I can imagine what people who get this virus badly are going through.

            Now, I fully accept that there are people out there far, far more at risk than me so I don't expect any special treatment, but even so, I'm not going to test the theory that asthma sufferers 'should' be ok.

            If anything, this poor girl has shown that any underlying condition, however under control, if it impacts breathing, lungs, immune system, then you will be at risk of this virus so be mega careful.

            Edit: having read the Mirror () article it would seem the advice given to the ambulance service and 111 regarding conditions like asthma may need updating. Feels like it wasn't lack of NHS resource that failed this girl, but lack of understanding how poorly she was. I think the lesson here is, if you think you need a hospital, drive yourself there (i've had to do this a couple of times with my wife when 111 failed to send an ambo that they had promised - the second time resulted in an operation and just under a week in hospital!)
            Last edited by Whorty; 26 March 2020, 10:08.
            I am what I drink, and I'm a bitter man

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              #16
              I think more than half the country has underlying health conditions. Overweight being an obvious one... remember standing in passport queue a few month back arriving in Manchester... think there was a US flight before me, a few notability overweight folks in shorts n t-shirts, you get the picture, standing there wheezing waiting to be served. Felt like I was downwind. They're buggered if they get infected.
              "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark Twain

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                #17
                Originally posted by Whorty View Post
                This is really sad, but it's wrong to suggest she had no underlying conditions that put her at risk - she had asthma.

                I've had 2 major incidents of my asthma in the past 2 years, both times requiring steroids to bring under control (one of the incidents was triggered by a chest infection), yet I've not been classed as most vulnerable. Full blown asthma attack, lasting days, is no fun so I can imagine what people who get this virus badly are going through.

                Now, I fully accept that there are people out there far, far more at risk than me so I don't expect any special treatment, but even so, I'm not going to test the theory that asthma sufferers 'should' be ok.

                If anything, this poor girl has shown that any underlying condition, however under control, if it impacts breathing, lungs, immune system, then you will be at risk of this virus so be mega careful.

                Edit: having read the Mirror () article it would seem the advice given to the ambulance service and 111 regarding conditions like asthma may need updating. Feels like it wasn't lack of NHS resource that failed this girl, but lack of understanding how poorly she was. I think the lesson here is, if you think you need a hospital, drive yourself there (i've had to do this a couple of times with my wife when 111 failed to send an ambo that they had promised - the second time resulted in an operation and just under a week in hospital!)
                I haven't needed an inhaler since 2014, thankfully. The missus has, though, convinced me to ring up and get a script for a blue one. I rang up and apparently there were a dozen more at our medical centre in a similar situation; getting the Ventolin inhaler just in case. As the other half said, if it gets worth, they may write you off buy we won't! She's correct, could make life a lot easier with a few doses of that a day rather than the worst happening.

                As you say, I feel sorry for the proper wheezers for whom self-isolation will be a matter of life or death. There's one in our firm, no chance of him doing anything but WFH for probably six months at least. Could work well, really; all work from home and just hire a tiny office as a northern HQ with access to meeting rooms for anything face-to-face. It'll save me a fortune on commute and food and drink.
                The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't exist

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
                  Then why are there people, mainly young men, walking around coughing on people? Or delibrately not giving people distance and smirking when it's noticed?
                  Toxic masculinity. See:


                  Dash cam: Driver faces GBP5,000 fine after footage shows car soaking pedestrian with puddle | Express.co.uk
                  Last edited by Old Greg; 26 March 2020, 12:01.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Whorty View Post
                    This is really sad, but it's wrong to suggest she had no underlying conditions that put her at risk - she had asthma.
                    Source? Her family stated she had no underlying health conditions. I would have expected them to mention asthma.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by NickFitz View Post
                      Source? Her family stated she had no underlying health conditions. I would have expected them to mention asthma.
                      The mirror. Family's heartbreak as carer, 21, dies of coronavirus with boyfriend by her side - Mirror Online

                      Doesn't say where the information came from. Who knows.

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