Covid-19: Eyes and ears on the ground reports... what isn't being reported?

[original PM]

Actually the government is changing the way it is releasing death figures, which “may not actually be the deaths that have taken place over the last 24 hrs” as family consent is now required.

Well it was interesting as yesterday the England deaths were not announced until very late - it is normally 5 pm (ish).

So do you think there are more deaths from it but we are not getting the full picture?

[darmstadt]

Well it was interesting as yesterday the England deaths were not announced until very late - it is normally 5 pm (ish).

So do you think there are more deaths from it but we are not getting the full picture?

Have you ever got the full picture?

[NotAllThere]

Have you ever got the full picture?

He's still on 405 lines.

[darmstadt]

Last night there were only 28 new fatalities recorded. Alas this is not good news, it is because there are now so many deaths the NHS is using a 7.30am cut off instead of 1pm. So the government is looking at changing how they are reported. You may not get any death figures today, as they are looking at moving to publishing first thing in the morning. The aim is to give more time to collate NHS data and inform families before ages and locations made public.

[BR14]

Actually the government is changing the way it is releasing death figures, which “may not actually be the deaths that have taken place over the last 24 hrs” as family consent is now required.

whos government? yours or ours?

[Highland]

Last night there were only 28 new fatalities recorded. Alas this is not good news, it is because there are now so many deaths the NHS is using a 7.30am cut off instead of 1pm. So the government is looking at changing how they are reported. You may not get any death figures today, as they are looking at moving to publishing first thing in the morning. The aim is to give more time to collate NHS data and inform families before ages and locations made public.

Does not compute.

[Old Greg]

yap yap yap

Hush now.

[Old Greg]

Well it was interesting as yesterday the England deaths were not announced until very late - it is normally 5 pm (ish).

So do you think there are more deaths from it but we are not getting the full picture?

Phone your dentist and see what he thinks.

[WTFH]

This may not be strictly true if you go here you can get the stats for all countries for daeaths Coronavirus Update (Live): 486,592 Cases and 22,020 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Outbreak - Worldometer

You can then drill down by country and this is where it gets interesting

The first death for Italy was recorded on 29th February - 6 days later they had a total of 127 deaths

Incorrect. Italy’s first death was on 21st Feb (according to Worldometers.info). By the 29th, they had 29 dead. (27th Feb they had 17 dead)

The first death for Spain was recorded on 8th March - 6 days later they had a total of 123 deaths

Incorrect. Their first death was on 3rd March. By 8th March they had 17 dead. You really need to learn how to read graphs! By 9th March (+6) they had 30 dead.

The first death for the Uk was recorded on 5th March - 6 days later they had a total of 6 deaths

Incorrect. By 11th March we had 8 dead.

Italy 20 days - 3384 deaths
Spain 20 days - N/A (3637 as at day 18)
UK 20 days - 422 deaths

Wrong, wrong and wrong.
Italy: 1,016
Spain:2,311
UK: 465

Please if you’re going to use graphs, learn how to read them. Go to the one titled “Total Corona Deaths in xxx” then look for where the first one is recorded. Then go from there.

[LondonManc]

It's my mother's funeral on Tuesday. Up to press, only myself(plus Mrs and Offspring), and my brother(plus his Mrs and Offspring) are permitted to attend the Crematorium. According to the Undertaker (A really nice chap btw), this may change between now and Tuesday.

My condolences.

We lost a friend last week to Coronavirus; 49, no underlying health issues apparently.

Ok not really justified but I used to do the "collect the bodies" work on behalf of the coronor, I cannot now because I'm too high risk apparently but:

Only basic funerals are allowed now. Family cannot attend, it's a case of the hearse or estate wagon or van turning up with the carriers taking the casket in and putting it on the slide for the oven, or in the hole. So I'm guessing the funeral directors must be losing funding hand over fist. Can't charge for all these lavish send offs anymore can they. If it gets bad enough then surely even this won't be enough and storing lots of bodies isn't practical.

Mass graves anyone? Not seen anything that suggests this has been considered.

I can envisage cremation only for a while, urn delivered to family to scatter ashes when allowed to.

The new makeshift hospital, 4000 beds complete with huge mortuaries

Certainly explains what they're doing with London City Airport.