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Plastic bags - are they that bad?

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    #41
    Originally posted by HoofHearted View Post
    Euphemism?
    It was coined by Giles Coren, to a) sound like an Euphemism, and b) sound Australianish. Plastic bags in the ocean strangle turtles. Don't be a turtle strangler.
    Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!

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      #42
      Originally posted by original PM View Post
      Ok - even then given that the sun will go red giant in about 4.5 billion years what we actually need to do to save civilisation is to colonise as many planets as possible so that we no longer rely on just one.

      Although even then we are will still be fighting the heat death or big rip of the universe.

      So what we really need to focus on is ensuring we sue the resources of this planet to ensure that civilisation can continue in areas other than the surface of the earth...

      so yes, not polluting your oceans with plastic bags is probably a good thing..
      what we actually need to do to save civilisation is to colonise as many planets as possible so that we no longer rely on just one.
      yes, but all those possible candidates in our own solar system, e.g. Mars and Titan, would still eventually perish as a result of our sun going red giant, even if that were some time after the Earth perished. Although there appear to be some candidates occupying the Goldilocks zone of their solar systems, these seem to be out of the range of our current propulsion methods.

      There was a science fiction series on the TV in the 60's introduced by Boris Karloff, can't remember the name, was it Out of this World?, where one episode told of a spaceship travelling for many generations to a distant planet. I guess at the moment, this would be the only theoretical way of reaching such planets.

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        #43
        Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
        Furthermore, if we can develop controllable fusion (only 20 years away!
        It's been 10 years in the future since the 1950s with no sign of much, if any, improvement on that.

        Originally posted by JohntheBike View Post
        roduced by Boris Karloff, can't remember the name, was it Out of this World?, where one episode told of a spaceship travelling for many generations to a distant planet. I guess at the moment, this would be the only theoretical way of reaching such planets.
        At the risk of resurrecting the Wig Wearing War Criminal of yore, "For the World is Hollow and I have touched the Sky".

        For the World Is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky - Wikipedia

        Naturally enough the Bewigged One couldn't leave well alone.

        With current technology, Project Orion is more or less the only feasible propulsion system.

        Project Orion (nuclear propulsion) - Wikipedia

        Mind you, it's a tad dirty getting that mofo into orbit.
        Last edited by DoctorStrangelove; 23 October 2019, 12:12.
        When the fun stops, STOP.

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          #44
          Originally posted by JohntheBike View Post
          yes, but all those possible candidates in our own solar system, e.g. Mars and Titan, would still eventually perish as a result of our sun going red giant, even if that were some time after the Earth perished. Although there appear to be some candidates occupying the Goldilocks zone of their solar systems, these seem to be out of the range of our current propulsion methods.

          There was a science fiction series on the TV in the 60's introduced by Boris Karloff, can't remember the name, was it Out of this World?, where one episode told of a spaceship travelling for many generations to a distant planet. I guess at the moment, this would be the only theoretical way of reaching such planets.
          Indeed - so Warp bubbles may carry us faster than light - Big Think is apparently not as far away as you think (although I do have my doubts) so generation ships are the current only way of getting to other star systems - but they have to be huge and we have no real way to get that volume of material into orbit at present.

          So - Space Elevator - just go to the 'roid belt and get a rocky asteroid and an icy one, smack them together and then extrude your carbon nanotubes to make a space elevator.

          Only problem is we cannot really get to the 'roids nor can we make a carbon nanotube long enough..

          So you need anti gravity drive - which also does not quite exist yet.

          Ho hum back to the drawing board!

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            #45
            Originally posted by MasterBait View Post
            totally useless packaging around vegetables and fruit for example.
            Indeed....







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              #46
              Originally posted by original PM View Post
              ...

              So who gets to play god?
              These people may like to have a say in that

              VHEMT

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                #47
                Originally posted by DoctorStrangelove View Post
                It's been 10 years in the future since the 1950s with no sign of much, if any, improvement on that.
                You don't say.
                Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by ladymuck View Post
                  These people may like to have a say in that

                  VHEMT

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
                    You don't say.
                    Of course Boris The Demented of Downing Street appears to think we're about to sell these around the world:

                    Back to The Future Mr. Fusion Replica
                    When the fun stops, STOP.

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