HMRC's time machine setting sights on all graduates!

[tiggat]

house prices and job market are nothing to do with legislation, they're a market. Not unless some idiots try to fix markets.

[PhiltheGreek]

Window tax. Ship tax.

I'm not that fecking old you cheeky mare.

[Lance]

good argument you've got there. Any substance to it?

or is a Youtube video showing a stereotype, a half-arsed suggestion about legislation and a laugh at any light scrutiny all you got?

[tiggat]

good argument you've got there. Any substance to it?

"house prices have nothing to do with government legislation"

[tiggat]

good argument you've got there. Any substance to it?

or is a Youtube video showing a stereotype, a half-arsed suggestion about legislation and a laugh at any light scrutiny all you got?

"changes to tuition fees have had nothing to do with the creation of high or medium skilled jobs"

[zeitghost]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_2u92HwyII

I bet you're the type of person who refers to under 30s as "snowflakes"

NF might not be, but I am.

Fecking never ending whining whinging Korbyn voting snowflakes.

[NotAllThere]

The issue is that in the 80s only 5% were good enough to get to university.
Now it's closer to 50%. Personally I think that was a pointless endeavour by New Labour and has devalued vocational (real) work, and increased the number of ridiculous degrees (and I don't have a problem with the pure academic stuff as long as it's difficult and very few people do it).

Increased student numbers (and student loans) started in 1990. That was under the Tories.

[Lance]

"house prices have nothing to do with government legislation"

I'm still not sure what your argument is but I'll defend my position regardless.
Nice image showing a correlation around the right to buy (which was an excellent way for poor people to escape the poverty trap, and became Labour policy in 1987). The graph seems to show that the legislation failed to prevent the decline in local authority building.

Second graph. WTF? What is a 'long running average of UK house price to earnings ratio'? It's a chart with no meaning. Other than it says that houses are harder to buy now than during the mid-90s recession (duh). It might also say that thjey are easier to buy now than in 2007 (which clearly shows that the chart is not helpful).

Next. Houses cost more than they did in 1960. Heaven forfend. Have you got a graph in real term costs (you know with inflation factored in), that supports your argument?

So what is your argument?
I'll summarise it so far..
1) "I bet you're the type of person who refers to under 30s as "snowflakes""
2) a tulipty Momentum video about middle-class stereotypes, shared on Youtube by a guy called Benedict Pringle
3) A graph showing a correlation with no argument to explain it's relevance, and 2 meaningless graphs.

At least you're trying.

And now the last graph. What's that trying to say? That our job market is changing?
Nothing to do with tuition fees I'm afraid. Try a global market, IT modernisation, de-industrialisation of the west (by market forces) and the rise of the developing economies. That's why our job market is changing.

[Lance]

Increased student numbers (and student loans) started in 1990. That was under the Tories.

yes. But it was Tony Blair who set 50% as an aspiration.

[tiggat]

I'm still not sure what your argument is but I'll defend my position regardless.
Nice image showing a correlation around the right to buy (which was an excellent way for poor people to escape the poverty trap, and became Labour policy in 1987). The graph seems to show that the legislation failed to prevent the decline in local authority building.

Second graph. WTF? What is a 'long running average of UK house price to earnings ratio'? It's a chart with no meaning. Other than it says that houses are harder to buy now than during the mid-90s recession (duh). It might also say that thjey are easier to buy now than in 2007 (which clearly shows that the chart is not helpful).

Are you honestly saying that a decline by half in the supply of housing, and a subsequent increase in house prices, and house price: income ratio is "correlation and not causation," and are unrelated???