Seems you have strong views on this, even to it being a deal breaker, so, I have to ask why didn't you raise it with the client at the interview stage?
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Originally posted by jungleboogy View PostAppreciate your take on it, we can agree to disagree. Maybe it's time I retired from this industry lol.'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!Comment
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A few questions:
1. Are you on an hourly rate or a daily rate?
2. Is your contract project-specific?
3. Does your contract specify a total number of days or is it a number of weeks/months/something else?…Maybe we ain’t that young anymoreComment
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Originally posted by cojak View PostI find that flexibility is often still there even with the '8 hours a day' clause. I also like the protection it gives from being expected to work a regular 8+ hour day.
Originally posted by WTFH View PostA few questions:
1. Are you on an hourly rate or a daily rate?
2. Is your contract project-specific?
3. Does your contract specify a total number of days or is it a number of weeks/months/something else?Last edited by gables; 17 July 2017, 09:13.Comment
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I have 'Professional Working Day' stipulated as 8hrs in the contract, and then further clauses indicating that 0-4hrs billable as Half Day and 4+ as Full Day......slightly ambiguous, but hey-ho!
ClientCo permies nominally work a 7.25hr day, and I tend to aim to accrue 36.25hrs throughout the working week, but this is normally made up of whatever it takes to get stuff done. Most of the time, I tend to work longer days when in the office Mon-Wed/Thu, and shorter when WFH.......
Guess it all depends on ClientCo and your relationship with them? Besides, I am paid a Day Rate, and hence - even with the ambiguity in contract terms (see above) I bill for a day. Only exception to that is a clause I had inserted to cover weekend/public holiday working, which is very very rare, where I charge a calculated premium hourly ratelatest-and-greatest solution (TM) kevpuk 2013Comment
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As long as client doesnt think PWD = 10 hours minimum. Had this in an interview once - find some other mugRhyddid i lofnod psychocandy!!!!Comment
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My current contract and previous one stipulated a PWD as 8 hours, but both have been flexible. I'm on site mon-thu and WFH friday, so I arrive late monday, finish early thursday.
I personally ask at the interview stage, but not in the demanding prima donna way that it sounds like you're doing. I did this for my current one, and they were fine as long as it adds up to 40 hours, so I wasn't particularly bothered when I got the contract saying 8 hours. I actually think this clause is there to state the maximum billable hours rather than I have to work 8 hours a day. So it if I do 12 hours, I can't bill pro-rata hourly rate * 12.Comment
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Originally posted by FrontEnder View PostMy current contract and previous one stipulated a PWD as 8 hours, but both have been flexible. I'm on site mon-thu and WFH friday, so I arrive late monday, finish early thursday.
I personally ask at the interview stage, but not in the demanding prima donna way that it sounds like you're doing. I did this for my current one, and they were fine as long as it adds up to 40 hours, so I wasn't particularly bothered when I got the contract saying 8 hours. I actually think this clause is there to state the maximum billable hours rather than I have to work 8 hours a day. So it if I do 12 hours, I can't bill pro-rata hourly rate * 12.bellfrontender says.'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!Comment
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Originally posted by northernladuk View PostYou are wrong about the IR35 aspect. Adhering to clients requirements has very little to do with IR35 and more to do with professional courtesy.
What if the "client's requirements" involve asserting S, D & C over you?Comment
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Originally posted by billybiro View PostAre you absolutely sure about that?
What if the "client's requirements" involve asserting S, D & C over you?
When they say the interview is at x time you are there on the dot. Is that SD&C? So why not when they ask you to attend at 9 on the first morning?
The other aspect is flexibility is applied once you start so ceases to be D&C.
If it's linked to other things the client wants then yes it might be an SDC problem. On it's own I don't think it is.
This thread discusses timekeeping and mentions many of the points I'm probably making very badly.
http://forums.contractoruk.com/busin...e-keeping.htmlLast edited by northernladuk; 17 July 2017, 14:07.'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!Comment
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