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    #21
    Originally posted by Lucy
    Prison clearly doesn't work.

    The re-offending rate is something like 70%.

    It is a much more complex issue than simply 'locking them up'. It's an outdated solution.
    Do you not think that has something to do with the fact that prison is a soft option these days and hardened criminals have no fear of doing time? What would you suggest - education? Good idea but start it at age 5 not when they are 42 and serving their 3rd sentence for bashing some poor little old lady over the head!

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      #22
      What if prison became like 5 star hotels?

      24 hr room service, top chefs, entertainment, every possible luxury, would your loss or liberty still be the deterent?

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        #23
        Originally posted by John Galt
        Do you not think that has something to do with the fact that prison is a soft option these days and hardened criminals have no fear of doing time? What would you suggest - education? Good idea but start it at age 5 not when they are 42 and serving their 3rd sentence for bashing some poor little old lady over the head!
        I really don't know, but I have been on the outskirts of the criminal justice system and I do know that the same people just get worse and worse everytime they go in and out of prison. They also seem to think they have nothing worthwhile to contribute, so 'what the hell'.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Lucy
          Prison clearly doesn't work.

          The re-offending rate is something like 70%.

          It is a much more complex issue than simply 'locking them up'. It's an outdated solution.
          **********Looney liberal tree hugging wimmin alert**************
          Are you the type of female that ends up marrying a convicted murderer?
          How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think

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            #25
            Originally posted by Troll
            **********Looney liberal tree hugging wimmin alert**************
            Are you the type of female that ends up marrying a convicted murderer?
            Are you offering ?

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              #26
              It would have been more appropriate to force RW to listen to Westlife.

              West Life - get it?

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                #27
                Originally posted by Lucy
                I really don't know, but I have been on the outskirts of the criminal justice system and I do know that the same people just get worse and worse everytime they go in and out of prison. They also seem to think they have nothing worthwhile to contribute, so 'what the hell'.
                So you think if we could just make them feel good about themselves they would stop reoffending? The only way to stop the current downward spiral is to educate children that certain behaviour is unacceptable and has consequences and the worse the behaviour the worse the consequences. These days there is no incentive for anyone to behave, no real punishment for those who misbehave or, later in life, break the law and there is no discipline. To a certain extent I am sure that much crime is caused because the perpetrators have no self-respect or no sense of self-worth but much of it is caused by greed, spite and the 'its not fair' attitude that seems so prevalent at the moment

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                  #28
                  Remember, tough on crime, tough on the causes of crime.

                  Speeding motorists are the only real crims.

                  Everyone else is just a misguided soul who needs a bit of Opera to cheer them up.

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                    #29
                    Which isn't changed by long sentences surrounded by similar types. I'm not saying I know what the answer is. It might have something more to do with children not being parented well, but how do you fix that ?

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Lucy
                      I really don't know, but I have been on the outskirts of the criminal justice system and I do know that the same people just get worse and worse everytime they go in and out of prison. They also seem to think they have nothing worthwhile to contribute, so 'what the hell'.
                      Awww bless.... so what is society said 'what the hell'

                      &

                      Re-introduced the death sentance
                      Only released paedos to society with a large red P tattoed on their forheads
                      Operated a 2 strikes policy - i.e. thieves would have a hand amputated on the second offence
                      How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think

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