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    #31
    Originally posted by shaunbhoy View Post
    At the next GE, all the Tories need to do is to offer every 18-year-old school leaver, a one-off no strings attached payment of £10k tax free.
    This could be used to help them get their driving test passed, their first car, the first year's insurance, the latest phone, and a decent holiday before plunging into the workplace.
    Cheaper than Corbyn's write-off of all tuition fees and a guaranteed way to dupe the gullible Millenials into voting Tory.
    Sorted.
    Problem is it was the 18-25 group who voted for Corbyn so they have to offer everyone in that group something to win.

    They also have to use Snapchat and WhatsApp (or there then equivalents) and get Grime (or there then equivalents) artists to go viral to pass the message.
    "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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      #32
      Theresa May’s grip on power is faltering after she was forced to retract her claim that a deal had been struck for the Democratic Unionists to prop her up.

      In a night of farce, No 10 first announced that an agreement had been reached – only to release a second statement, just five hours later, admitting it had not.

      The DUP issued its own statement, dismissing the claim of a deal, apparently angry at the attempt to bounce the party into signing up before it was ready.
      Meanwhile, the polling company which accurately predicted Friday’s dramatic election results released another poll – putting Labour five points ahead.

      The Survation survey, for The Mail on Sunday, also found that 49 per cent of the public want the Prime Minister to resign, while only 38 per cent want her to remain in post.
      Theresa May's grip on power loosens as her bid to strike a deal with the DUP descends into farce | The Independent

      It's not looking good for the Tories, it has to be said.
      "Being nice costs nothing and sometimes gets you extra bacon" - Pondlife.

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        #33
        Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
        And for this reason, I'm out.
        And for this reason you should have never voted Brexit - it was obvious that it would hasten arrivel of Labour into power.

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          #34
          Originally posted by MarkT View Post
          Jeremy won't be PM. Not in this parliament, the Tory survival instinct will kick in and keep May afloat at least until early next year.

          Beyond that, a new leader who unites them like Hammond or Rudd who puts together a manifesto that doesn't kick their core vote in the stomach and doesn't propose harming furry animals would likely bring the Tories back with a majority.

          They got a vote increase, that recent Survation poll shows they are still more trusted than Labour with the economy and after all this duster puck - Corbyn is STILL not seen as a better PM than her, they are neck and neck.

          I firmly believe Labour have had their moment under Corbyn, even with a huge surge in youth voters, they are still fifty seats behind even forming a coalition.

          Truth hurts.
          It's going to be too little too late - Corbyn is now shown as electable, this will give him a LOT more votes.

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            #35
            Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
            I'm still waiting to hear what she promised Nissan in Sunderland, open and transparent government
            She made a personal promise...

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              #36
              Originally posted by shaunbhoy View Post
              At the next GE, all the Tories need to do is to offer every 18-year-old school leaver, a one-off no strings attached payment of £10k tax free.
              This could be used to help them get their driving test passed, their first car, the first year's insurance, the latest phone, and a decent holiday before plunging into the workplace.
              Cheaper than Corbyn's write-off of all tuition fees and a guaranteed way to dupe the gullible Millenials into voting Tory.
              Sorted.
              This plan is total fantasy...

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                #37
                Originally posted by jamesbrown View Post
                No, I mean precisely the opposite of EEA. Faced with the EEA or nothing, it's most likely to be nothing. There's always a sufficient minority in Parliament to bring down the gov't if the Brexit they want is being diluted (especially by the time this actually comes into play, i.e. 12-18 months away), and the opposition parties will happily oblige. There's no scenario in which an EEA-style deal gets through Parliament, because the Tory backbenchers (assisted by the opposition) would prefer a re-election in which the hard-Brexit mandate is coupled with a more liberal agenda on spending (350m per week for the NHS), EU citizens (unilateral declaration) and immigration (bin the 100k target), as well as a more positive youth agenda. That's dangerous territory, because elections are unpredictable. As I say, an increased probability of a soft Brexit is illusory because there's no longer a "strong and stable" gov't to do anything that leaves a minority of backbenchers in a shouty mood, and Labour will pounce on any splits to force an election.
                It isn't the Hard Brexiteers who will bring down the government it will be the "Remoaners", in particular Ruth Davis and her 13 Conservative MPs, they're almost a separate party now doing their own thing and have nothing to fear from UKIP.

                Hard Brexit would then only be possible if the Tories then subsequently got a stonking gr8 majority that would mean the Scottish Conservatives are irrelevant. Is that likely?

                I would say, probably not as young people now have learnt to go out and vote. A second election will probably return a minority Labour government propped up by the SNP and Lib-Dems, and you know what that means.

                I'm alright Jack

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
                  A second election will probably return a minority Labour government propped up by the SNP and Lib-Dems, and you know what that means.


                  DimPrawn will leave us and take a pool cleaners job in Cyprus...

                  This makes me glum.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by shaunbhoy View Post
                    At the next GE, all the Tories need to do is to offer every 18-year-old school leaver, a one-off no strings attached payment of £10k tax free.
                    This could be used to help them get their driving test passed, their first car, the first year's insurance, the latest phone, and a decent holiday before plunging into the workplace.
                    Cheaper than Corbyn's write-off of all tuition fees and a guaranteed way to dupe the gullible Millenials into voting Tory.
                    Sorted.
                    Yup, and most of 25% of former UKIPers who voted Labour this time will probably switch back to the Tories, having been given the shock of their lives by the present fiasco.

                    Not that they'll want to, being die hard Labour, but for a lot of us both Tory and Labour Brexit trumps everything for now.
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by OwlHoot View Post
                      Yup, and most of 25% of former UKIPers who voted Labour this time will probably switch back to the Tories, having been given the shock of their lives by the present fiasco.

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