Are IT developers the stupidest people on earth ?

[cojak]

If the computer industry is good at one thing it's finding new ways to reinvent old stuff. It won't be long before we're again coding in machine language and banging hex codes onto a floppy disk using an MS-DOS sector editor, except it'll have a trendy new name and everybody under 30 will think it's a revolutionary approach to developing software.

+1

ARM templates are nothing more than fancy IBM JCL.

[Cirrus]

fancy IBM JCL.

Fancy IBM JCL is...

... Rexx

[darmstadt]

Fancy IBM JCL is...

... Rexx

Er, not quite but I see where you're coming from. REXX is a scripting language which you can use to create, and in some cases, replace JCL. JCL has changed a lot of the past few years and I suspect that people who worked with it 20 years ago wouldn't fully recognise a lot of JCL now...

[BrilloPad]

What do we want? A new anorak
When do we want it? I will ask my accountant.

[cojak]

Er, not quite but I see where you're coming from. REXX is a scripting language which you can use to create, and in some cases, replace JCL. JCL has changed a lot of the past few years and I suspect that people who worked with it 20 years ago wouldn't fully recognise a lot of JCL now...

Oh I don't doubt that Darmie, but the principles are the same.

[squarepeg]

Fancy IBM JCL is...

... Rexx

Damn! Should've kept those ARexx books...

[Bee]

+1

ARM templates are nothing more than fancy IBM JCL.

In that case, it's better to put ARM in my CV because if I maintain the JCL the youngers don't know what it is.

[tomtomagain]

I can't think of any other profession where people are actively working to put themselves out of work by automating their job. IT workers need a world union.

In what way are IT developers automating their jobs? They are automating everyone else's.

[sasguru]

In what way are IT developers automating their jobs? They are automating everyone else's.

^^ this.

I've loved programming since I was a teenager in the 80s and now approaching middle age I find that the demand and rates for developers are increasing, contrary to what I believed would happen 10 years ago.
Programming/developing at the top level is an art as well as a science and it won't be automated any time soon, not in the next 10 years anyway. Of course I may be wrong about that.

[tomtomagain]

^^ this.

I've loved programming since I was a teenager in the 80s and now approaching middle age I find that the demand and rates for developers are increasing, contrary to what I believed would happen 10 years ago.
Programming/developing at the top level is an art as well as a science and it won't be automated any time soon, not in the next 10 years anyway. Of course I may be wrong about that.

I started programming when I was about 11 on a ZX81. And have probably coded most days since ( certainly every week ). Even when I became a "manager" for a few years, which was nice because it went back from being just a day-job to a passion.

If you take five minutes to think about the enormous advances over the last 3 decades in coding and development it's mindblowing. The changes in languages, libraries, development techniques, approaches and "best practice" is amazing. A competent programmer today is vastly more efficient ( efficient == being able to deliver a system to meet a customer requirement ) than a competent programmer of 30 years ago simply because of the advances in the dev. tools available to her.

Some people think it's getting easier. But that forgets the fact that we're tackling bigger, more complicated problems. I expect the development teams working for Tesla, Apple & Google et al on self-driving cars don't think it's getting easier.


I believe we've only just started. Humans have been building bridges for 3000 years. We've only been coding for 60.

Here's to the next 30 years of coding!