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Brexit: Gibraltar angered by Spain's EU 'veto'

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    #31
    I think the point is Spain will be allowed to hold Gibraltar to ransom in exchange for giving Scotland a very smooth ride and hence strengthen the support for Scottish independence. A kind of a double whammy.

    I'm alright Jack

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      #32
      Just wait before EU demands UK shuts down multiple tax evasion and money laundering offshores that it runs - Isle of Man, BVI, Guernsey etc, that wasn't possible whilst UK was a member, but now that it leaves the gloves will be off.

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        #33
        Originally posted by AtW View Post
        Just wait before EU demands UK shuts down multiple tax evasion and money laundering offshores that it runs - Isle of Man, BVI, Guernsey etc, that wasn't possible whilst UK was a member, but now that it leaves the gloves will be off.
        The EU are gently reminding the UK of their interpretation of "taking back control" . This is all perfectly fine and understandable. They're hurt.

        It has always been unclear to me whether logic or sentiment would prevail in these negotiations (indeed, an important reason for ditching the EU). Obviously, there's a very strong argument for moving beyond the playground, but both sides have, at least, until the German elections to kick each other, and I suspect it will persist until September 2018. The only thing that definitively moves this from the playground sooner than September 2018 would be a victory for Le Pen, which looks very unlikely (and would be a total fecking disaster for all concerned IMHO).

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          #34
          Originally posted by PurpleGorilla View Post
          Have you been there?


          You have to drive through La Linear (sp) which is an absolute armpit, then cross a border (not so straight forwards even in EU) walk across a runway, then it's cramped and quirky. A bit British a bit Spanish, very military. There isn't much there, it's not very pretty, and all in all its just a huge oddity.

          Having stood at the top it's not as geographically significant as people make out. It's just very very odd. Would I live there? No way!
          It's a perfect bargaining chip like many other scraps of land all over the world. It's a distraction, but it's also an easy way to annoy the UK. This is not the first and not the last time Spain "wants" Gibraltar back. Exactly what it would do with it is unknown? Spaniardise its residents? ;-)
          You're awesome! Get yourself a t-shirt.

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            #35
            Remain said this type of thing would happen, Leave called it scaremongering. Now Leave are saying that it's disgraceful and no one could have seen it coming. The idiots who got us into this mess need to man up and step up to face the responsibility for their actions.
            …Maybe we ain’t that young anymore

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              #36
              Originally posted by WTFH View Post
              The idiots who got us into this mess need to man up and step up to face the responsibility for their actions.
              Looks like they want to start a war over it!

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                #37
                Originally posted by WTFH View Post
                Remain said this type of thing would happen, Leave called it scaremongering. Now Leave are saying that it's disgraceful and no one could have seen it coming. The idiots who got us into this mess need to man up and step up to face the responsibility for their actions.
                Resistance is fEUtile
                http://www.cih.org/news-article/disp...housing_market

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by WTFH View Post
                  Remain said this type of thing would happen, Leave called it scaremongering. Now Leave are saying that it's disgraceful and no one could have seen it coming. The idiots who got us into this mess need to man up and step up to face the responsibility for their actions.
                  TBF, Remain rammed a turd in a shotgun and, in their impatience to scatter that turd far and wide, forgot they were pointing the gun at themselves. That's the "mess" of which you speak. It would be more efficient to list the famines and pestilences that Remain didn't forewarn (you missed a trick on the "divorce bill" BTW). Anyway, now we've punched through the severe shock scenario and we're entering the second phase of playground games, what's the "type of thing" that's happening here? Perhaps I missed the period in recent history where Spain wasn't whining about Gibraltar or where Michael Howard resembled a sane person. While the nuttier wings of Remain and Leave look for every opportunity to foam at the mouth, the rest of us can see this nonsense for precisely what it is. Foreplay.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by jamesbrown View Post
                    the rest of us can see this nonsense for precisely what it is. Foreplay.
                    Lets hope the EU get screwed!
                    Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by vetran View Post
                      Lets hope the EU get screwed!
                      Both sides would be wise to arrange a generous supply of lube. There will be no winners, I'm afraid.
                      You're awesome! Get yourself a t-shirt.

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