Lorry kills nine at Christmas market

[NotAllThere]

So the suspect in the attack was known to the security services, was being watched (obv. not closely enough), and was facing deportation.

Lukasz Urban (the truck's original driver) seems to have been a bit of a hero. When he realised the vehicle was being driven at the market, he appears to have grabbed the wheel, diverting the lorry away from the centre of the market and so saving many lives.

[PurpleGorilla]

So the suspect in the attack was known to the security services, was being watched (obv. not closely enough), and was facing deportation.

Lukasz Urban (the truck's original driver) seems to have been a bit of a hero. When he realised the vehicle was being driven at the market, he appears to have grabbed the wheel, diverting the lorry away from the centre of the market and so saving many lives.

... and he left his identify papers conveniently in the lorry. Although it took the police 20 hours to find them.

If you believe that, you can believe anything.

[NotAllThere]

... and he left his identify papers conveniently in the lorry. Although it took the police 20 hours to find them.

If you believe that, you can believe anything.

Police incompetent? Doesn't seem terribly far-fetched. Or are you wearing some attractive tin-foil headwear today?

[northernladyuk]

... and he left his identify papers conveniently in the lorry. Although it took the police 20 hours to find them.

If you believe that, you can believe anything.

You can believe anything.

[vetran]

So the suspect in the attack was known to the security services, was being watched (obv. not closely enough), and was facing deportation.

Lukasz Urban (the truck's original driver) seems to have been a bit of a hero. When he realised the vehicle was being driven at the market, he appears to have grabbed the wheel, diverting the lorry away from the centre of the market and so saving many lives.

Good job the EU has tightened its borders hey?

A string of security blunders left a failed Tunisian asylum seeker free to carry out the Berlin Christmas market massacre, it was feared last night.

German security services face difficult questions after it emerged that Anis Amris, a lifelong criminal, should have been deported months ago.

The 24-year-old, who has a 100,000 euro reward on his head, was under the surveillance of German intelligence for several months following his arrival in the country in 2015.

He had been arrested three times this year and his asylum application was rejected, but deportation papers were never served and he disappeared.

Imagine a convicted criminal pretending to be an Asylum Seeker, being arrested repeatedly by the Police and not being deported. Couldn't happen in the super efficient EU.

Indeed sounds like Mr Urban was a very brave man.

[PurpleGorilla]

They said on R4 that they tried to deport him but Tunisia refused because Germany couldn't prove his identity.

So any asylum seeker just needs to shred their identity papers and that's a ticket to stay.

Mind you I would imagine shredding identity papers would be on the first page of the terrorist handbook?

[darmstadt]

You can believe anything.

PG does...

[PurpleGorilla]

Lol

[vetran]

They said on R4 that they tried to deport him but Tunisia refused because Germany couldn't prove his identity.

So any asylum seeker just needs to shred their identity papers and that's a ticket to stay.

Mind you I would imagine shredding identity papers would be on the first page of the terrorist handbook?

Has always been the way.

Why would a country who has got shot of their criminals want them back?

[PurpleGorilla]

Has always been the way.

Why would a country who has got shot of their criminals want them back?

That's Germany Fooked then!