Trumponomics

[sasguru]

Depends what you are looking at. Outside of the growth areas (the coasts, part of the south) the us is in a recession (in the same way the U.K. is if you look at GDP per capita rather than overall).

I don't disagree. Overall there's growth, but it's concentrated in large cities which specialise in the latest knowledge industries.

This is a result of the destruction of local manufacturing in both the UK and the US and explains, to a large extent, both Brexit and Trump.
But I've posted about this before - it's the elephant in the room - what on earth do you do about the 50% of people with an IQ of less than 100 in a knowledge economy?
Of all Western countries only Germany has managed to solve this problem, perhaps because it has many more family owned paternalistic manufacturing enterprises that have an interest in maintaining strong local economies.

[d000hg]

You really should stop using the words "virtue signalling" to virtue signal to your fellow cretins, you tedious, tedious twunt.

He heard the phrase somewhere and thinks it makes him sound edgy and clever - like a child who learns a new phrase and uses it about a hundred times a day, the only difference being the child realises after a week this is dull and moves on to something new.

I love the phrase virtue signalling. It says in two words what would otherwise require several paragraphs of reason/evidenced based argument to make

Saving you the effort of having to make a reasoned, evidence-based argument which is handy because let's face it, you're not very good at reasoning and frequently there is no evidence to back up the argument you want to make

Trump is still an idiot though at least we seem to agree on something.

[eek]

I don't disagree. Overall there's growth, but it's concentrated in large cities which specialise in the latest knowledge industries.

This is a result of the destruction of local manufacturing in both the UK and the US and explains, to a large extent, both Brexit and Trump.
But I've posted about this before - it's the elephant in the room - what on earth do you do about the 50% of people with an IQ of less than 100 in a knowledge economy?
Of all Western countries only Germany has managed to solve this problem, perhaps because it has many more family owned paternalistic manufacturing enterprises that have an interest in maintaining strong local economies.

Not destroy manufacturing 20 years ago....

Being more serious I actually don't think that's the problem here. A better answer would be not allowing those with no skills to come from Eastern Europe to provide unbeatable competition to that 50%... Its remarkable how much the Brexit margin matched both the rate of immigration and the rate of austerity inflicted.

[OwlHoot]

Saving you the effort of having to make a reasoned, evidence-based argument which is handy because let's face it, you're not very good at reasoning and frequently there is no evidence to back up the argument you want to make

Trump is still an idiot though at least we seem to agree on something.

It's comical how the two most blatant virtue signalers on CUK make such a big song and dance when pulled up on it.

Also, I don't recall dodgy saying he thought Trump was an idiot. So it looks like you're putting words into peoples' mouths.

[d000hg]

It's comical how the two most blatant virtue signalers on CUK make such a big song and dance when pulled up on it.

Nobody has been pulled up on it in this thread, we're just mocking DA for using a millennial term and thinking it makes him look clever

Also, I don't recall dodgy saying he thought Trump was an idiot. So it looks like you're putting words into peoples' mouths.

He is an idiot

Maybe learn to read before you feel ready to get into arguments with the grown-ups eh?

[SueEllen]

Maybe learn to read before you feel ready to get into arguments with the grown-ups eh?

Don't be mean like DA he can read but he doesn't understand what he's reading.

[vetran]

Don't be mean like DA he can read but he doesn't understand what he's reading.

whereas you only have difficulty with grammar?

[eek]

whereas you only have difficulty with grammar?

[sasguru]

A better answer would be not allowing those with no skills to come from Eastern Europe to provide unbeatable competition to that 50%... Its remarkable how much the Brexit margin matched both the rate of immigration and the rate of austerity inflicted.

Almost all the evidence is that non-skilled immigration had only a small effect on lowering wages.
I suspect that we'll see unemployment rise and wages fall if a hard Brexit came in, simply because there'll be fewer jobs to go around, as foreign companies leave. And lower tax take to fund public sector jobs. Basically less economic activity all round.
Some on the dole or food bank queue of the future might look back with nostalgia to the days when the only thing annoying them was the Polish food shop on the high street.

[d000hg]

Come on, every road is a dead end.