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    #21
    Originally posted by Eirikur View Post
    Yes they voted for a non binding referendum, but they didn't vote on brexit itself and how brexit will look like
    So let's execute what we voted for and then when that is done we can discuss where we are going.

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      #22
      Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
      Unlikely that the UK will end up under WTO rules. The Nissan letter put paid to that. Nissan made it very clear that WTO rules aren't acceptable and the government have promised them (and everyone else as well) that won't be the case. The government will negotiate what it can but in the end it will be forced to cave.

      The EU won't simply throw the UK out, that isn't what they're about, what their intention is to humiliate the UK. At the end of the negotiations the UK will have a choice between WTO and humiliation, and humiliation it will be.
      The approach being taken by the Remnants may force us into that position.

      As you will have read from the articles I have posted, at the moment the EU are bricking it as their own economists are telling them they have more to lose than we do.

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        #23
        Originally posted by GB9 View Post
        So let's execute what we voted for and then when that is done we can discuss where we are going.
        Which goes back to the question of what did the Brexit camp actually vote for?
        £350 million a week for the NHS
        A total ban on all immigration
        Bent bananas
        Doughnuts for everyone

        You'll reply with "don't be an idiot, we voted to leave the EU", but which bits of the EU? The pledges during the campaign didn't detail that, they just talked about how we'd have all this extra money to spend on the NHS, bent bananas and no immigrants.
        ...and don't use the words "unelected" or "undemocratic", unless you're talking about Westminster, it's 2 chambers and the UK Civil Service.
        …Maybe we ain’t that young anymore

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          #24
          Originally posted by GB9 View Post
          The approach being taken by the Remnants may force us into that position.

          As you will have read from the articles I have posted, at the moment the EU are bricking it as their own economists are telling them they have more to lose than we do.
          Brexit actually is hardly mentioned in the news or on an chat shows here in the EU, in fact it doesn't come up in conversation, so I don't get the impression that the EU is "bricking itself". In contrast in the UK there is no other subject, newspapers, TV news and chat shows have no other topic. Always talking about something is a symptom of when "you're bricking yourself".
          I'm alright Jack

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            #25
            Originally posted by GB9 View Post
            The approach being taken by the Remnants may force us into that position.

            As you will have read from the articles I have posted, at the moment the EU are bricking it as their own economists are telling them they have more to lose than we do.
            They threaten the existence of the e.u if they split the four freedoms which is why they won't do it and would take the tariff hit. That has been echoed by the heads of state and the e.u.
            Make Mercia Great Again!

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              #26
              Originally posted by BlueSharp View Post
              They threaten the existence of the e.u if they split the four freedoms which is why they won't do it and would take the tariff hit. That has been echoed by the heads of state and the e.u.
              Exactly and generally people in the EU are simply expecting the EU to offer a fairly clear binary take it or leave it approach. In fact in Germany which would be most affected, they can't find enough skilled workers for their car industry so they're pretty uninterested as to whether it shrinks somewhat as a result of Brexit.
              Last edited by BlasterBates; 4 November 2016, 11:48.
              I'm alright Jack

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                #27
                Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
                Exactly and generally people in the EU are simply expecting the EU to offer a fairly clear binary take it or leave it approach. In fact in Germany which would be most affected, they can't find enough skilled workers for their car industry so they're pretty uninterested as to whether it shrinks somewhat as a result of Brexit.
                Rather than burying your heads you would do well to actually click on the links I post and then read the articles. Reality check

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by GB9 View Post
                  Rather than burying your heads you would do well to actually click on the links I post and then read the articles. Reality check
                  The BOE link? Yep read it and it shows growth for when we have access to the single market. What's your point?
                  Make Mercia Great Again!

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by GB9 View Post
                    Rather than burying your heads you would do well to actually click on the links I post and then read the articles. Reality check
                    those are articles written by a Eurosceptic press therefore they have cherry picked the parts which prove their point but left the rest out. go to the BoE website and read the actual report(s).
                    Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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                      #30
                      I'm sure this has been said before, possibly even in this thread, but parliament HAS had a say. They voted through the Referendum Bill by a huge margin and the government along with the rest of the Remain campaign made it very clear that this is OUR choice and if the country chooses to leave the EU then leave we would.

                      ISTR Cameron said he'd invoke Article 50 the very next day.

                      So we don't need another vote & for some of the Remainiacs to claim that this result is a victory for our parliamentary democracy is completely disingenouus because we all know that our elected MPs along with the unelected Europhile rump in the House of Lords will do everything to hinder, water down and possibly even overturn Brexit and if that happens yet more law making powers will be transferred to Brussels & we won't have any parliamentary democracy left to speak of.

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