IndyRef2 : This time it's war!

[BR14]

There are far less opportunities for the Glaswegians to go out for a 3 day bender to celebrate Scotland winning a match.

Wit u an about?

Gareth Southgate believes England’s first qualification defeat in a decade shows how far they are from becoming “a really top team”.

Still on a bender from Oct 12th

ah, - football fans.
that would explain the knuckle dragging levels of intellect then

[Mordac]

Wit u an about?

Gareth Southgate believes England’s first qualification defeat in a decade shows how far they are from becoming “a really top team”.

Still on a bender from Oct 12th

Enjoy it. It might be another decade until the next one...

[BrilloPad]

Imagine if Scotland had voted to leave in 2014. They would still be arguing about departure terms....

[minestrone]

Yes of course. Keep taking your medicine.

As you don't live in Scotland you are probably unaware of the general dislike she has gathered.

Who will succeed Nicola Sturgeon as SNP leader?

And the future is not great. Joanna Cherry looks like the fat kid in your class that was tulip at Rugby.

Derek Mackay who wee all assume I next is electrifying.

YouTube

[scooterscot]

The New Statesman is a British political and cultural magazine published in London. Founded as a weekly review of politics and literature on 12 April 1913, it was connected then with Sidney and Beatrice Webb and other leading members of the socialist Fabian Society, such as George Bernard Shaw who was a founding director.

[SimonMac]

TIL

Scotland joined the Union partly because they ****ed up so badly they were basically broke


Darien scheme - Wikipedia

[Batcher]

TIL

Scotland joined the Union partly because they ****ed up so badly they were basically broke


Darien scheme - Wikipedia

The Darien Scheme broke the investors, not Scotland itself. It was this lot that signed up to the union to save themselves, its where the saying “bought and sold for English gold” comes from. The English parliament brought in the Alien Act 1705 to boycott Scottish trade to force the rich Scots to join the union. At that time only rich men could vote and become politicians so the normal people didn’t have a say.

There were riots in the streets of Scotland for years because the ordinary Scots didn’t want the union.

Read up on the Alien Act here Alien Act 1705 - Wikipedia


The Darien Scheme myth has been debunked here https://corescholar.libraries.wright...ontext=etd_all

[Zigenare]

The Darien Scheme broke the investors, not Scotland itself. It was this lot that signed up to the union to save themselves, its where the saying “bought and sold for English gold” comes from. The English parliament brought in the Alien Act 1705 to boycott Scottish trade to force the rich Scots to join the union. At that time only rich men could vote and become politicians so the normal people didn’t have a say.

There were riots in the streets of Scotland for years because the ordinary Scots didn’t want the union.

Read up on the Alien Act here Alien Act 1705 - Wikipedia



The Darien Scheme myth has been debunked here https://corescholar.libraries.wright...ontext=etd_all

All's well that ends well...

Combined with English financial offers to refund Scottish losses on the Darien scheme, the Act achieved its aim, leading to the Acts of Union 1707 uniting the two countries as the Kingdom of Great Britain.

[eek]

All's well that ends well...

England - subbing Scottish overspending and dodgy decisions since 1705....

[woohoo]

The Darien Scheme broke the investors, not Scotland itself. It was this lot that signed up to the union to save themselves, its where the saying “bought and sold for English gold” comes from. The English parliament brought in the Alien Act 1705 to boycott Scottish trade to force the rich Scots to join the union. At that time only rich men could vote and become politicians so the normal people didn’t have a say.

There were riots in the streets of Scotland for years because the ordinary Scots didn’t want the union.

Read up on the Alien Act here Alien Act 1705 - Wikipedia


The Darien Scheme myth has been debunked here https://corescholar.libraries.wright...ontext=etd_all

The second link is a thesis provided for a masters. It doesn't set out to debunk that the Darien Scheme was a failure or that the English where to blame.

It's just tries to prove that the scheme didn't fail because of Scottish incompetence. In the real world many schemes don't fail because of incompetence but because competing forces win. TBH I don't believe the thesis, it's bias is set out right from that start. I find it hard to believe this is the definitive article on the Darien Scheme.

The Scottish need to stop blaming the English for all their issues and take responsibility.