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    Originally posted by Mordac View Post
    There are far less opportunities for the Glaswegians to go out for a 3 day bender to celebrate Scotland winning a match.
    ah, - football fans.
    that would explain the knuckle dragging levels of intellect then

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      Enjoy it. It might be another decade until the next one...
      His heart is in the right place - shame we can't say the same about his brain...

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        Imagine if Scotland had voted to leave in 2014. They would still be arguing about departure terms....

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          Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
          Yes of course. Keep taking your medicine.



          As you don't live in Scotland you are probably unaware of the general dislike she has gathered.

          Who will succeed Nicola Sturgeon as SNP leader?

          And the future is not great. Joanna Cherry looks like the fat kid in your class that was tulip at Rugby.

          Derek Mackay who wee all assume I next is electrifying.

          YouTube

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            The New Statesman is a British political and cultural magazine published in London. Founded as a weekly review of politics and literature on 12 April 1913, it was connected then with Sidney and Beatrice Webb and other leading members of the socialist Fabian Society, such as George Bernard Shaw who was a founding director.
            "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark Twain

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              TIL

              Scotland joined the Union partly because they ****ed up so badly they were basically broke


              Darien scheme - Wikipedia
              Originally posted by Stevie Wonder Boy
              I can't see any way to do it can you please advise?

              I want my account deleted and all of my information removed, I want to invoke my right to be forgotten.

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                Originally posted by SimonMac View Post
                TIL

                Scotland joined the Union partly because they ****ed up so badly they were basically broke


                Darien scheme - Wikipedia
                The Darien Scheme broke the investors, not Scotland itself. It was this lot that signed up to the union to save themselves, its where the saying “bought and sold for English gold” comes from. The English parliament brought in the Alien Act 1705 to boycott Scottish trade to force the rich Scots to join the union. At that time only rich men could vote and become politicians so the normal people didn’t have a say.

                There were riots in the streets of Scotland for years because the ordinary Scots didn’t want the union.

                Read up on the Alien Act here Alien Act 1705 - Wikipedia


                The Darien Scheme myth has been debunked here https://corescholar.libraries.wright...ontext=etd_all

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                  Originally posted by Batcher View Post
                  The Darien Scheme broke the investors, not Scotland itself. It was this lot that signed up to the union to save themselves, its where the saying “bought and sold for English gold” comes from. The English parliament brought in the Alien Act 1705 to boycott Scottish trade to force the rich Scots to join the union. At that time only rich men could vote and become politicians so the normal people didn’t have a say.

                  There were riots in the streets of Scotland for years because the ordinary Scots didn’t want the union.

                  Read up on the Alien Act here Alien Act 1705 - Wikipedia



                  The Darien Scheme myth has been debunked here https://corescholar.libraries.wright...ontext=etd_all
                  All's well that ends well...

                  Combined with English financial offers to refund Scottish losses on the Darien scheme, the Act achieved its aim, leading to the Acts of Union 1707 uniting the two countries as the Kingdom of Great Britain.
                  Old Greg - In search of acceptance since Mar 2007. Hoping each leap will be his last.

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                    Originally posted by Zigenare View Post
                    All's well that ends well...
                    England - subbing Scottish overspending and dodgy decisions since 1705....
                    merely at clientco for the entertainment

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                      Originally posted by Batcher View Post
                      The Darien Scheme broke the investors, not Scotland itself. It was this lot that signed up to the union to save themselves, its where the saying “bought and sold for English gold” comes from. The English parliament brought in the Alien Act 1705 to boycott Scottish trade to force the rich Scots to join the union. At that time only rich men could vote and become politicians so the normal people didn’t have a say.

                      There were riots in the streets of Scotland for years because the ordinary Scots didn’t want the union.

                      Read up on the Alien Act here Alien Act 1705 - Wikipedia


                      The Darien Scheme myth has been debunked here https://corescholar.libraries.wright...ontext=etd_all
                      The second link is a thesis provided for a masters. It doesn't set out to debunk that the Darien Scheme was a failure or that the English where to blame.

                      It's just tries to prove that the scheme didn't fail because of Scottish incompetence. In the real world many schemes don't fail because of incompetence but because competing forces win. TBH I don't believe the thesis, it's bias is set out right from that start. I find it hard to believe this is the definitive article on the Darien Scheme.

                      The Scottish need to stop blaming the English for all their issues and take responsibility.

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