Where are all the hardcore contractors

[Mincepie]

I like the troll he reminds me of the wolf of wall street people

[original PM]

[d000hg]

So to give an analogy for the bricklayer

Do you want your bricklayer to spend half his team writing numbers on the bricks to tell you what order he is going to use them in building the wall - or do you just want him to build the wall?

If it was a wall of a type he hadn't built before, the former. But most walls are quite similar. Whereas you rarely write the exact same code over and over again, if you are it suggests you could've saved some time not coding in the first place.

[woohoo]

If it was a wall of a type he hadn't built before, the former. But most walls are quite similar. Whereas you rarely write the exact same code over and over again, if you are it suggests you could've saved some time not coding in the first place.

I think at some point you realise that using brick laying as analogy of software development doesn't work. Better to stick with talking about software development, but i think if we did that originalPM would show his ignorance.

[original PM]

If it was a wall of a type he hadn't built before, the former. But most walls are quite similar. Whereas you rarely write the exact same code over and over again, if you are it suggests you could've saved some time not coding in the first place.

Have you coded using modern tools? there are so many plug ins and code re-uses that a huge chunk of the code written is the same code used again and again.

I agree this would be completely different if you are coding for obscure engineering projects

but not for standard noddy websites etc

[bobspud]

Have you coded using modern tools? there are so many plug ins and code re-uses that a huge chunk of the code written is the same code used again and again.

Its amazing how many coders still insist on RE-writing the wheel though. we had one of our clowns marched off the other week (apart from telling everyone that he did follow architects) code was also poo! turned out he had imported load of library code and still written his own functions to do the same thing...

that chap could be coming to a project near you soon...

[sasguru]

I agree this would be completely different if you are coding for obscure engineering projects

but not for standard noddy websites etc

So what you're saying is that you're a PM in a commodity environment where you develop "standard noddy websites"?

As opposed to something more interesting like "engineering projects".

Well, given your posts on this subject that makes complete sense.

[original PM]

So what you're saying is that you're a PM in a commodity environment where you develop "standard noddy websites"?

As opposed to something more interesting like "engineering projects".

Well, given your posts on this subject that makes complete sense.

:sigh: when did I ever say I was a PM?

[sasguru]

:sigh: when did I ever say I was a PM?

Oh I'm sorry I just assumed so as you seem to have all the vocabulary and buzzwords of one of the many useless layers of people that plague this industry.

[MrMarkyMark]

Oh I'm sorry I just assumed so as you seem to have all the vocabulary and buzzwords of one of the many useless layers of people that plague this industry.

There was I thinking you had made that judgement purely by his username

You're a right analyst, I'll give you that













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