Where are all the hardcore contractors

[MrMarkyMark]

Actually, the really hard core ones are sitting at home in their dressing gowns, hungover, with a cold, about to take a nap, and still billing.

I just got some kind of image in my head, which in my condition is not very pleasant at all.

[Fronttoback]

I am confused - if you wanted to get some code done and you hired a coder would you just expect them to spend say 2 hours coding and the next 6 hours not coding?

I am not saying that I do not want the people i hire to have a rounded skill set what i am saying is I am not interested in the other skills of the skills I need are coding...

It's like if you wanted a wall building - do you want to hire someone who can lay bricks for 8 hours or someone who will lay bricks for 2 and then dick about for 6 trying to show you their other great skills.

This makes no sense because you cannot, by definition, have a great coder who does not have a well rounded skillset. If your coder can only code, they are not great. This is a canonical definition. Your position on this speaks volumes, no?

[tomtomagain]

Your position on this speaks volumes, no?

You are SASGuru. I claim my five pounds.

[original PM]

This makes no sense because you cannot, by definition, have a great coder who does not have a well rounded skillset. If your coder can only code, they are not great. This is a canonical definition. Your position on this speaks volumes, no?

Evidently so - I shall speak to our IT director and tell him he has been doing it all wrong - if he wants someone to write code he should not look for code writing skills but a well rounded skill set.

Although even though I am just feeding the troll cos I am bored - do you think that maybe Jose Mourinho has it wrong? he seems to be trying to get great footballers because he needs people to play great football when all along he needed someone who is a great opera singer

but actually you strike me a someone who could not run a bath.

[Wilmslow]

That's quite a modest pitch you have there. What about recalibrating yourself amongst a higher level of performer.
How about lifting yourself out of the tedium. Reach for the stars and become one.

Only last week I was talking to the CTO of a major open source software vendor (he makes his money from books on his software). Over breakfast whilst we discussed my major successes over the past 20 years he commented on how he simply can't get a decent PM these days. He said that in the days of agile there is no longer a need for a PM. Apparently testers are now being promoted to scrum masters and doing the job on PM. Well, my jaw hit my smoked salmon as I learned that two pillars of the software community: testers and PMs had almost become optimised out.

Hello chuchie - How are you my old dog?

[WTFH]

Actually, the really hard core ones are sitting at home in their dressing gowns, hungover, with a cold, about to take a nap, and still billing.

I haven't got a cold, but otherwise you're spot on.

[sasguru]

Actually, the really hard core ones are sitting at home in their dressing gowns, hungover, with a cold, about to take a nap, and still billing.

This.
In my case no hangover or cold though.
It's so quaint and last century that people go into offices - although those who do are usually non-value-add bull-tulipters like PMs, and other thick dross.

[sasguru]

Is our Long gone Aussie friend back?

Back briefly, then choked on one pole too many.

[original PM]

That's quite a modest pitch you have there. What about recalibrating yourself amongst a higher level of performer.
How about lifting yourself out of the tedium. Reach for the stars and become one.

Only last week I was talking to the CTO of a major open source software vendor (he makes his money from books on his software). Over breakfast whilst we discussed my major successes over the past 20 years he commented on how he simply can't get a decent PM these days. He said that in the days of agile there is no longer a need for a PM. Apparently testers are now being promoted to scrum masters and doing the job on PM. Well, my jaw hit my smoked salmon as I learned that two pillars of the software community: testers and PMs had almost become optimised out.

Indeed it is all about Product Owners n stuff now.....

[woohoo]

I am confused - if you wanted to get some code done and you hired a coder would you just expect them to spend say 2 hours coding and the next 6 hours not coding?

I am not saying that I do not want the people i hire to have a rounded skill set what i am saying is I am not interested in the other skills of the skills I need are coding...

It's like if you wanted a wall building - do you want to hire someone who can lay bricks for 8 hours or someone who will lay bricks for 2 and then dick about for 6 trying to show you their other great skills.

What exactly do you think a "coder" does? You think they "codez" 8 hours straight all day? So, if you are hiring a coder (wtf is a coder) and they are typing 8 hours a day I can only imagine they are the dregs, given exact instructions on what to type 8 hours a day. That is not a software developer in my book.

This is why people like you should not be anywhere near hiring a software developer.