Switzerland to leave Shengen

[AtW]

Bye bye, Single Market, it wasn't that nice knowing you

Apparently there is no need for single market. Say USA trades just fine without single market... well, try to order stuff from Germany and USA and count how many days they will be spending in customs: 0 for Germany and up to 45 working days for stuff from USA.

[GB9]

Doesn't that make sense though? Jobs for locals first and only then for other nationals if you can't fill them with locals? Hardly freedom of movement.

In the Guardian of course so you need to see through the spin.

[jamesbrown]

Apparently there is no need for single market. Say USA trades just fine without single market... well, try to order stuff from Germany and USA and count how many days they will be spending in customs: 0 for Germany and up to 45 working days for stuff from USA.

I think the US trades with the Single Market Details aside, I order goods from the US all the time, and export services there all the time too. Completely painless

Also, you're referring to a customs union. The Single Market is more than a customs union, and it's that "more than" part that prompted the leave vote. A customs union has no internal trade barriers and a common external tariff, nothing more. In particular, freedom of movement (of capital, goods, services and labour/workers) is part of the Single Market, but not a customs union. In fact the Single Market is even worse, because they've transposed "labour" with "people". Free trade area/agreement --> customs union --> single market --> European Single Market --> monetary union (Eurozone) --> economic union --> prison.

Goal of the negotiation: stay as far away from prison as possible.

[vetran]

One political party saying they may, under certain circumstances, "launch an initiative" to do something about something at some unspecified time in the future doesn't really mean much, does it?

Worked for Brexit

[NotAllThere]

A political party is proposing that they'll raise a referendum on leaving Schengen. Then the Swiss people will vote on it. If there is a majority, then Switzerland will leave Schengen. The referendum that took Switzerland into Schengen was won largely for the security and police cooperation that it brings in than passportless movement across borders.

Oh look - a proposed referendum to reverse the result of a previous one. How very undemocratic.

[NotAllThere]

Actually Switzerland have caved in.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...uk-predicament

This is exactly where the UK is heading

The plan is that as long as a company has made some half hearted vague attempts to employ a local that after that they have carte blanche to go ahead with "uncontrolled immigration".

The EU won't stand in the way of that.

The federal government doesn't agree with quotas for EU citizens and was against the initiative. However, they're tasked to make it work while still adhering to the referendum result - which is legally binding. Not so much "caved in" as "found a way around" that doesn't violate the referendum result, and might be acceptable to the EU.

[BlasterBates]

I bet they will. To the EC, every compromise is an existential threat, ironically.

I suspect that May is minded to go little further than replacing freedom of movement with freedom of movement for workers, but they won't accept that either.

Bye bye, Single Market, it wasn't that nice knowing you

We'll see, Juncker gave it the nod, so I think they're ready to compromise.

Nigel Farage "frothed at the mouth" at the prospect of his points system being dumped.

During her visit to China, she ruled out the introduction of an Australian-style points-based system for immigration policy as proposed by the Leave campaign, saying it was "not a silver bullet" to reduce the numbers coming to the UK.

But her spokeswoman poured cold water on suggestions that she has instead plumped for a work permit system which would require EU nationals to secure a job offer before coming to settle in the UK.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7229366.html

It's clear now the only option the UK has for any free trade in the forseeable future is with the EU.

[VectraMan]

The unravelling of the EU dream continues

Switzerland to leave Schengen

In related news: war to end, poverty to be eliminated, and all diseases cured.

Yaay!

[LondonManc]

A political party is proposing that they'll raise a referendum on leaving Schengen. Then the Swiss people will vote on it. If there is a majority, then Switzerland will leave Schengen. The referendum that took Switzerland into Schengen was won largely for the security and police cooperation that it brings in than passportless movement across borders.

Oh look - a proposed referendum to reverse the result of a previous one. How very undemocratic.

You mean like the Scottish fishlady wanting her William Wallace moment? Indeed, how very undemocratic.