Speed Awareness course or 3 points?

[Burns]

Absolutely, it should be a rule for everyone, it definitely shouldn't be selective.

Just a couple of notes.

Just seems odd to me, things like 'you can't drive at 100mph, but you can if you're a police driver'

and in a police car (while on duty) police aren't exempt from the speed limits while in their own cars as far as I am aware.

'You need to be a trained driver to drive at 100mph'

In the UK according to the law.

You can't kill people but you can if you are an armed policemen or soldier. Or a hangman.

Similar to the first point. I don't think police and soldiers (and hangmen, lol) are given carte blanche to kill anyone whenever they want.

I know i'm being argumentative

Yeah, sorry, me too.

Raskolnikovian schism.

Not even google helped me out here

[SueEllen]

Just seems odd to me, things like 'you can't drive at 100mph, but you can if you're a police driver' or, and I heard this on Police Interceptors from a police driver 'You need to be a trained driver to drive at 100mph' so why can I drive at 200kph on the Autobahn without being trained?

Germany is a sovereign country like the UK, so their road laws are different.

In the UK parliament decided that the maximum speed limit must be left at 70mph for ordinary citizens. They were going to raise it to 80mph on motorways but then realised that people would drive at 90mph. The police don't pull you over on motorways if you drive at 80mph (as per your speedometer) but if you try it on any other road you will get points etc.

[Old Greg]

Germany is a sovereign country like the UK, so their road laws are different.

I thought we were all part of an EU superstate.

[Burns]

Here is a great explanation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0FgFUcS4n0

That was very interesting, thank you.

[stek]

Absolutely, it should be a rule for everyone, it definitely shouldn't be selective.

Just a couple of notes.



and in a police car (while on duty) police aren't exempt from the speed limits while in their own cars as far as I am aware.



In the UK according to the law.



Similar to the first point. I don't think police and soldiers (and hangmen, lol) are given carte blanche to kill anyone whenever they want.




Yeah, sorry, me too.



Not even google helped me out here

Rodya Raskolnikov, hero (or anti-hero) of Dostoyevskiy's Crime and Punishment (Prestupleniye i Nakazaniye) the root of his surname is from the Russian word for 'schism' or is it 'schizm' (paging ATW) which alludes towards his self-assertion that he considers himself above the law, because he is not thick in his own opinion, but when he does commit 'the crime' he thinks he is superior enough to be allowed to commit he is wracked with guilt and paranoia that eats him up - 'the punishment'.

Hence the schism. I am a better driver so I should be allowed to speed, but what if I kill someone doing it, can I cope with it and am I therefore not a better a driver?

This is deep for general.....

[Burns]

Rodya Raskolnikov, hero (or anti-hero) of Dostoyevskiy's Crime and Punishment (Prestupleniye i Nakazaniye) the root of his surname is from the Russian word for 'schism' or is it 'schizm' (paging ATW) which alludes towards his self-assertion that he considers himself above the law, because he is not thick in his own opinion, but when he does commit 'the crime' he thinks he is superior enough to be allowed to commit he is wracked with guilt and paranoia that eats him up - 'the punishment'.

Hence the schism. I am a better driver so I should be allowed to speed, but what if I kill someone doing it, can I cope with it and am I therefore not a better a driver?

This is deep for general.....

Thanks for this, good to know.

Agreed, isn't General supposed to be knob jokes and insulting everybody indiscriminately?

[bobspud]

Germany is a sovereign country like the UK, so their road laws are different.

In the UK parliament decided that the maximum speed limit must be left at 70mph for ordinary citizens. They were going to raise it to 80mph on motorways but then realised that people would drive at 90mph. The police don't pull you over on motorways if you drive at 80mph (as per your speedometer) but if you try it on any other road you will get points etc.

This is a scrape of the guidelines that I was not following. You can find the whole document if you are interested its worth the read.

Speed Enforcement Policy Guidelines for UK Police Forces

I was thankfully well under a court summons but at the same time still liable for the fine. Ironically the Officer chasing me would have been in for a total banning due to the speed he needed to reach in order to make up the ground to catch me. That was before he had even identified that I was being a prat.

I have two things that I like to adhere to when I drive on the motorway.

I don't like to be near big clumps of other cars. If i see a bunch of traffic ahead I will reduce my speed to 60 to make sure I don't get near them. Being in those clumps is dangerous. Every bad accident I have seen involved the cars to the side of the victim. Its normally a serve into the blind spot. At that speed you are going to spin and then its a lottery of death as to what hits you next. No thanks Im only going to work.

But I will not put up with people in old or sub standard cars trying to tailgate me. I am likely to be using Distronic cruise control and I know that it will react more aggressively if another car pulls into my radar zone. Most normal cars would not enjoy being behind me in that situation. The other problem with tailgaters is that most people get along side take a look at the car then pull across me (again pissing off the radar systems) and slow down.

So my general rule is get out the way and don't be near stuff.

Also having narrowly missed a Badger on the m4 late at night. Use the central lane exclusively at night as it gives you two directions to avoid animals with no road sense.

[NigelJK]

Germany is a sovereign country like the UK, so their road laws are different.

Indeed they are and their test is very different also. IIRC it HAS to contain a section on driving the Autobahns as it's not safe to allow untrained drivers on it. They have specific laws for the fast sections and woe betide you if you break them.

[stek]

IIRC, UK motorways are built for 120mph in 60's cars, and there was no speed limit on one time (the AC Cars tale is urban legend) so why 70?

Most likely because there are just too many vehicles on them now, last time a drove regularly on the M1 on the way home it was 50/stop/50/stop/50 all the way home....

[Old Greg]

IIRC, UK motorways are built for 120mph in 60's cars, and there was no speed limit on one time (the AC Cars tale is urban legend) so why 70?

Most likely because there are just too many vehicles on them now, last time a drove regularly on the M1 on the way home it was 50/stop/50/stop/50 all the way home....

Slightly interesting in an avoiding doing any work way: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_s...ingdom#History