Merged thread concerning attacks in Europe

[vetran]

So, because they entered the country some time ago, the recent influx is not a problem. Until of course they too feel angry and embittered when all their absurd fantasies of a wonderful new life are not fulfilled, when they put all their problems down to exclusion and racism and they start to act in the same way in a few years.

What a dream world some people live in.

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Don't try to convince him with facts, they love their disparate & Desperate Europe!

[darmstadt]

Don't try to convince him with facts, they love their disparate & Desperate Europe!

Actually I was stating a fact primarily to those who have blamed the recent attacks on her policies in that these attackers were not part of the recent influx. How do you explain the homegrown radicals? Does anyone actually have an answer of how to deal with the problem rather than just posting links or should we all just follow the Trump lead and send all of 'them' back? Maybe they could all have some kind of special tag that they have to wear so that god fearing people could avoid them? Maybe someone could actually come up with a reasonable argument...

[SueEllen]

Actually I was stating a fact primarily to those who have blamed the recent attacks on her policies in that these attackers were not part of the recent influx. How do you explain the homegrown radicals? Does anyone actually have an answer of how to deal with the problem rather than just posting links or should we all just follow the Trump lead and send all of 'them' back? Maybe they could all have some kind of special tag that they have to wear so that god fearing people could avoid them? Maybe someone could actually come up with a reasonable argument...

You are wasting your time.

These people have fear of "others".

They are yet to work out these people live amongst us just like IRA bombers and sympathisers did.

[minestrone]

Well this was quite interesting:

Critics of Mrs Merkel argue that by announcing an immigration free-for-all she has endangered the lives of ordinary Germans. But the recent flow of refugees from war zones into Europe has not increased the risk of terrorism.

This is supported by the fact that all three asylum seekers who carried out attacks in Germany this week had entered the country long before Mrs Merkel announced her immigration policy last year.

One was self radicalised within a week or two, one was a useless numpty who couldn't actually make a proper bomb and the other wasn't anything to do with religion really.

That is simply not true. For starters multiple members of the Bataclan night Paris attack entered Europe disguised as refugees during Merkel's free-for-all and progressed through Germany to kill Germans on French soil. You are free to google it as no doubt whatever link I provide you will have an issue with.

This is the problem with recent events and public opinion, there is a mixture of journalists unable to understand the situation pumping out false information to people like yourself who don't understand the situation who regurgitate the false information they read.

[Mordac]

You are wasting your time.

These people have fear of "others".

They are yet to work out these people live amongst us just like IRA bombers and sympathisers did.

The rather massive difference being, the IRA tended to give warnings, not always successfully, granted, but this bunch of (expletives deleted) don't give a flying (expletive deleted). With IS, it's the more the merrier, except if they are right, that means less virgins to go round. What a conundrum...

[xoggoth]

Does anyone actually have an answer of how to deal with the problem rather than just posting links or should we all just follow the Trump lead and send all of 'them' back

No, if they are citizens of course we can't send them back, but not letting any more in may not be a bad idea. Not having any easy solutions is hardly an argument for making the situation worse.

It is not particularly relevant if Merkel's decision was not responsible for these individual cases, her decision certainly has greatly increased the risk to German citizens and for that she deserves blame.

[minestrone]

I think they are about to be named at 8.

I'm going for Moroccan and Algerian.

[glebe digital]

They certainly seem to be coming thick and fast now, with ones tinfoil firmly on one might suggest some kind of 'Operation Gladio' inspired nastiness.

I mean, Capitalism (as a functioning global system) funds both/all sides in any case, so one might say that 'terrorism' has always been an integral part of the functioning logic of Capital.....think Central America in the 80's, for instance.

[SueEllen]

No, if they are citizens of course we can't send them back, but not letting any more in may not be a bad idea. Not having any easy solutions is hardly an argument for making the situation worse.

It is not particularly relevant if Merkel's decision was not responsible for these individual cases, her decision certainly has greatly increased the risk to German citizens and for that she deserves blame.

You know people can convert like the male [expletives] who massacred Lee Rigby?

Also keep calling people "them" and "others" and watch more young men raised in the UK attempt to blow us up and Daesh claim it.

[xoggoth]

I mean, Capitalism (as a functioning global system) funds both/all sides in any case

Inneresting, out of the ordinary CUK comment there Mr Newbie. Historically the rise of capitalism, when lending became acceptable at the end of the middle ages, did see a rise in big conflicts. Before that it was difficult to afford wars. No doubt ISIS is funding itself in all sorts of ways, selling oil, plundered antiques and relics etc. Maybe we need to focus a lot more on who is buying them.