Merged thread concerning attacks in Europe

[vetran]

Sorry!


Funny thing is, in the local press it originally said he lived on Church Lane, now changed to "he has friends who".

its the Mail!

[LondonManc]

It says its not for terrorist offences.
It quotes exact numbers.

or are we supposed to believe the Police just prosecute more Muslims and manage to convince juries they are wrong uns?

Yes, it says not for terror offences. Yes, it quotes exact numbers.

But it doesn't say what they were imprisoned for; are there cultural differences where there needs to be some sort of education via mosques? Something like, you may be muslim but this isn't a muslim country, so you'll be tried under UK law, not sharia jurisprudence.

[vetran]

Yes, it says not for terror offences. Yes, it quotes exact numbers.

But it doesn't say what they were imprisoned for; are there cultural differences where there needs to be some sort of education via mosques? Something like, you may be muslim but this isn't a muslim country, so you'll be tried under UK law, not sharia jurisprudence.

Its not like you go to prison for leaving the toilet seat up.

To get there they have done something that is pretty unpleasant I don't care if its legal in their home country.

[xoggoth]

Finally having the bottle to bring the Rochdale, Rotherham and other paedophile rings to justice will have "boosted" numbers

Men with these tendencies in every society, look at the mainly white RC priests for example, but, out of fear of appearing racist, our authorities did nothing until the problem got too large to ignore. It should have been tackled when there were just a few cases and then, because they were not getting away with it, fewer would have tried it on. Allowing the problem to grow increased racism.

Political correctness by our authorities and the liberal left, by casting genuine concerns as xenophobia or racism, are far more responsible for real racism than the far right. If genuine concerns are not tackled resentment only grows. If people are denounced as xenophobic for voicing concerns in a reasonable manner they will eventually decide there is no point in being reasonable.

If you want to reduce racism make sure that any migrants we get are high performers whose contribution outweighs the pressures they add to our resources. I doubt most UKIP supporters care what race/colour someone is, they do care if they are a threat or being subsidised by their taxes.

[SpontaneousOrder]

If you mean moral rather than legal, I disagree with 1st sentence. In a world of over 7bn people, many in poor, repressive or conflict ridden societies, there must be limits if we do not want to destroy our own society.

Obviously, we can't fully check those we do take but we should get rid of those who are significant danger. Why is it right to protect somebody from risk of harm and then wrong to protect our own citizens from risk of harm?

We have a moral duty to NOT let them in.

[AtW]

If Germany did not chicken out at dealing with Assad back in 2011 then this would not have happened.

[LondonManc]

Its not like you go to prison for leaving the toilet seat up.

To get there they have done something that is pretty unpleasant I don't care if its legal in their home country.

Yes they do. You appear to be missing the point and so are the BBC. Understanding what they are getting jailed for would help keep them out of jail if they are told that they can't behave like that over here. Deportation should be an option rather than jail too.

[Hobosapien]

Deportation should be an option rather than jail too.

Not much use if the perps are UK born, unless we deport them to the Isle of Wight, Anglesey, or Outer Hebrides after setting them up Escape From New York style.

[LondonManc]

Not much use if the perps are UK born, unless we deport them to the Isle of Wight, Anglesey, or Outer Hebrides after setting them up Escape From New York style.

If they want to live by sharia law, they can have a one-way ticket to a state that is governed by it.

[SueEllen]

We have a moral duty to NOT let them in.

So all those Jews fleeing Hitler should not have been let into other countries?

All the dissidents fleeing Stalin should not have been let into countries?

All those US citizens fleeing the McCarthy regime shouldn't have been let into other countries?