[Merged]Brexit stuff

[scooterscot]

First Obama now Hillary...

Hillary Clinton urges Britain to remain in the European Union | Politics | The Guardian


It's becoming clearer and clearer with each passing day the chances of the UK leaving the EU are next to nil. No country will want to trade with the petulant child. The whole thing is a waste of money. We should get back to work building our German owned minis and rolls royces stat. And other foreign owned whathaveyous Jaguar Land Rover,

[GJABS]

I don't think so. The "establishment" (which includes both Obama and Clinton) all want the UK to stay in the EU, because it suits their big-business chums and satisfies their craving for power.
Whereas many ordinary people want out, and are aware of the reality of the above as the underlying motivation for the "IN" campaign.

[original PM]

First Obama now Hillary...

Hillary Clinton urges Britain to remain in the European Union | Politics | The Guardian


It's becoming clearer and clearer with each passing day the chances of the UK leaving the EU are next to nil. No country will want to trade with the petulant child. The whole thing is a waste of money. We should get back to work building our German owned minis and rolls royces stat. And other foreign owned whathaveyous Jaguar Land Rover,

You seem to think that because another rich person sees their retirement gravy train leaving the station and says we should stay it is for any reason other than their own personal benefit.

There is a petulant child or in fact children in this debate.

But they ain't in the brexit camp.

In fact the more politicians tell us to stay the more I want to leave because you cannot trust a career politician to do anything but what is best for themselves.

[sasguru]

I'm not sure how Obama will benefit from the UK staying in Europe. Anyone care to enlighten me?

[ShandyDrinker]

First Obama now Hillary...

Hillary Clinton urges Britain to remain in the European Union | Politics | The Guardian


It's becoming clearer and clearer with each passing day the chances of the UK leaving the EU are next to nil. No country will want to trade with the petulant child. The whole thing is a waste of money. We should get back to work building our German owned minis and rolls royces stat. And other foreign owned whathaveyous Jaguar Land Rover,

On the remain side I view a lot of the current argument as being analogous to a bad relationship as what they are saying is you must stay in because fear of what is on the other side so it's better sticking with what you know. If we all extended that argument to our daily lives divorces would never happen, people would never change jobs and so on.

While I can see arguments on both sides I think descending into negative campaigning (and I think it's only going to get worse) is not the right approach.

In my opinion we're likely to get screwed whichever way the vote goes in that if we vote out heels will be dragged over trade deals as we've been the petulant child wheres if we vote remain there'll be animosity in Brussels that we dared have a referendum in the first place and if any further (re)negotiations are requested all they'll say is that you voted to stay in...

[PurpleGorilla]

The Brexit camp wheel are really flying off now

I don't think so. The "establishment" (which includes both Obama and Clinton) all want the UK to stay in the EU, because it suits their big-business chums and satisfies their craving for power.
Whereas many ordinary people want out, and are aware of the reality of the above as the underlying motivation for the "IN" campaign.

This is well summed up for me.

Vote leave goes against the great master plan.

God bless the special relationship.

[Flashman]

You seem to think that because another rich person sees their retirement gravy train leaving the station and says we should stay it is for any reason other than their own personal benefit.

There is a petulant child or in fact children in this debate.

But they ain't in the brexit camp.

In fact the more politicians tell us to stay the more I want to leave because you cannot trust a career politician to do anything but what is best for themselves.

100% correct.

[sasguru]

Still waiting for someone to explain how Obama, or even Clinton, will benefit from the Uk staying in

[PurpleGorilla]

Still waiting for someone to explain how Obama, or even Clinton, will benefit from the Uk staying in

Remain = the same status quo (the 1%)

Leave = risk and uncertainty (the 1%)

[sasguru]

Remain = the same status quo (the 1%)

Leave = risk and uncertainty (the 1%)

Thanks for the explanation. I shall give it the respect it merits.