[Merged]Brexit stuff

[scooterscot]

You know Arnie won that one? Went home & made babies.

great film by the way.

Yeah I know. I play both sides to keep myself entertained.

Want to watch the movie now. He was in Munich last week being a numpty.

[Fronttoback]

I reckon the currency devaluation will do a lot more damage in the short-term than and raw deal would. Think about it, increasing inflation will reduce consumer demand and the majority of our imports after food is tat from China. Appetite to export to the UK will not carry the same weight as when we were part of the EU. It should be obvious. I'm sure we will get a deal but the question that'll come (years down the line when a deal does come and low exchange rates have damaged small businesses), was it worth it?

Small business that imports stuff will suffer increased prices, that they might push on to the consumer causing inflation. If this causes enough pain, local businesses will spring up to supply the parts cheaper than the imported gear. People only import because it has been cheaper to do so. So all these little local businesses pop up manufacturing parts that used to be imported - and this is how the UK rebuilds it's manufacturing base.

[jamesbrown]

I think quite a few people are missing the main point. There is NO SOFT BREXIT OPTION on the table. The only 'Soft' option is the EEA and that is politically unacceptable. I voted remain but I would kick against the EEA option which is basically all the rules with no ability to influence or veto. The 'Bespoke British deal' that May and the 3 Brexiters are blabbing about is simply pie in the sky. It will never happen. The only options on the table are stay in (Ignore the referendum result, May's govt would fall if that happened.) or leave completely. The EU are banking on the fact that when the true cost of a hard Brexit starts to dawn the govt will row back. Both sides are dug in, buckle up, 2017 is going be one heck of a wild ride.

Completely agree. I don't think Tusk is bluffing when he says that Brexit is hard, by definition. The EEA is the worst possible outcome, in the long term, and it is politically untenable for May. For both sides, it would make sense to minimise tariff and non-tariff barriers to trade. However, this may be politically untenable for the EU, especially if the slow motion car crash continues (Greece, Hungary, Austria, German/Italian banks etc.), as it becomes an existential issue.

[scooterscot]

Small business that imports stuff will suffer increased prices, that they might push on to the consumer causing inflation. If this causes enough pain, local businesses will spring up to supply the parts cheaper than the imported gear. People only import because it has been cheaper to do so. So all these little local businesses pop up manufacturing parts that used to be imported - and this is how the UK rebuilds it's manufacturing base.

Such skills don't exist for those small business to simply 'pop-up', do they? We're talking changes that only occur in a generation.

[vetran]

Small business that imports stuff will suffer increased prices, that they might push on to the consumer causing inflation. If this causes enough pain, local businesses will spring up to supply the parts cheaper than the imported gear. People only import because it has been cheaper to do so. So all these little local businesses pop up manufacturing parts that used to be imported - and this is how the UK rebuilds it's manufacturing base.

nice Idea I suspect phantom importing from China will continue.

[vetran]

Such skills don't exist for those small business to simply 'pop-up', do they? We're talking changes that only occur in a generation.

they didn't exist in China or Taiwan either.

its not impossible.

[NotAllThere]

...Anyway, you haven't mentioned them so i'm assuming you are satisfied with the worst case and 15 year comments I made on the £66bn...

Neither satisfied nor dissatisfied - you're confusing me with someone who actually gives a toss.

Reasons for not giving a toss:
1. It won't affect me personally very much
2. There's nothing I can do about ameliorating the effects of terrible political decisions.

However, I do enjoy pointing out your ignorance on oh so many matters.

[Fronttoback]

Such skills don't exist for those small business to simply 'pop-up', do they? We're talking changes that only occur in a generation.

3D printers make many things possible don't they?

[scooterscot]

they didn't exist in China or Taiwan either.

its not impossible.

Well I suppose we'll be happy to work for £1.20p/h when that time comes.

[scooterscot]

3D printers make many things possible don't they?

Whose going to make the 3D printers?

Say hello to the 4D printer.