The Official "There will be no Brexit" Thread

[BlasterBates]

Yes because the poor already are poor. Its hard to loose 70% on your portfolio when its already 0 The state WILL feed them and HOUSE them if need be.

On the other hand there are a great many investors holding property(S) in London skyscrapers that are probably feeling quite upset that they bought dozens off them off plan.

A crash in £ value plus a drop in value of 50 - 60% on the property even more if the holding company doesn't go bust like the guys that used to own Canary Wharf, and its starts to look real miserable for them.

A good analysis on 1 million Brexit voters, but what about the other 16 million?

[bobspud]

So the difference is beneath you. Good to know.

No not beneath me. I have been there early in my career. I sat and looked at the sums and saw that so much cash was going out the door just living it was not leaving me with much more than a chap down the road that was in a council house and on benefits.

Instead of feeling sorry for myself I stripped my life back and started from almost nothing and it made me stronger.

That's why this crisis does not bother me. I know what ever I lose I will be able to make it back eventually.

[Old Greg]

No not beneath me. I have been there early in my career. I sat and looked at the sums and saw that so much cash was going out the door just living it was not leaving me with much more than a chap down the road that was in a council house and on benefits.

Instead of feeling sorry for myself I stripped my life back and started from almost nothing and it made me stronger.

That's why this crisis does not bother me. I know what ever I lose I will be able to make it back eventually.

And it's all about you, isn't it?

[bobspud]

A good analysis on 1 million Brexit voters, but what about the other 16 million?

Maybe they also want change and are willing to almost break our country to get it...

[Old Greg]

Maybe they also want change and are willing to almost break our country to get it...

The problem with almost breaking a country is you might break it.

[jamesbrown]

I do admire your refreshing trust in the political process.

And I, yours.

[CretinWatcher]

Maybe they also want change and are willing to almost break our country to get it...

To be fair I don't think they wanted to break the country.
The vast majority (including many on here) did not have the numeracy, analytical skills or critical faculties to work out what the consequences of their vote were going to be.
Quite a few seem to think that Leave means all immigrants must Leave
Quite a few didn't seem to know what the EU was.
Quit a few didn't know that the deal we had was that we didn't have to ever join political/economic union, we could just keep reaping the benefits of the single market
Quite a few (including some on here) thought that Britain was a superpower being held back by the EU
Quite a few didn't really understand that 1% of GDP is chump change in the big scheme of things
Quite a few thought that the UK can be self-sufficient with any immigrants at all.

and so on.

[Old Greg]

To be fair I don't think they wanted to break the country.
The vast majority (including many on here) did not have the numeracy, analytical skills or critical faculties to work out what the consequences of their vote were going to be.
Quite a few seem to think that Leave means all immigrants must Leave
Quite a few didn't seem to know what the EU was.
Quit a few didn't know that the deal we had was that we didn't have to ever join political/economic union, we could just keep reaping the benefits of the single market
Quite a few (including some on here) thought that Britain was a superpower being held back by the EU
Quite a few didn't really understand that 1% of GDP is chump change in the big scheme of things
Quite a few thought that the UK can be self-sufficient with any immigrants at all.

and so on.

Some appear to still believe that the EU needs the UK more than the UK needs the EU, so the EU will agree for the UK to retain free access to the single market without allowing the free movement of individuals.

[CretinWatcher]

Some appear to still believe that the EU needs the UK more than the UK needs the EU, so the EU will agree for the UK to retain free access to the single market without allowing the free movement of individuals.

Ah yes I lumped that in the UK is a superpower category of the myth taxonomy

[Old Greg]

Ah yes I lumped that in the UK is a superpower category

The quandary we have around democratic deficit (and I do agree that not following through on the referendum is democratically appalling) is that we have two options now:

1. Find a way (government inaction, Parliamentary chicanery, election, 2nd referendum) to overturn the referendum, leading to popular indignation etc. that the electorate were duped by a branch of the political élite, or
2. Follow through on the referendum and end up in a place where all the Leave campaign lies are revealed, leading to popular indignation etc. that the electorate were duped by a branch of the political élite.

It's a tricky one. Probably best is a GE and then letting things land how they land. Glad I'm not in the UK.