Breakfast Brexit Merge

[GB9]

Practical real life benefits above theoretical ideological principles? The shock!

.

No, they just think what is more important to them takes precedence over what everyone else wants. Pretty much like most children.

[GB9]

And they are forgetting that 1 in 4 people aged up to 24 voted to leave.

[Jog On]

I wonder how many of them were also out protesting against austerity and corporate ownership of government...

[Platypus]

Great Britain refers to the island so surely we can't use that name any more.

We can because it's a geographical term. Like the "British Isles" (which includes Ireland - all of it).

[SueEllen]

The 16 and 17 year olds are p*ssed off.

With the Scottish referendum they were deliberately included to ensure their couldn't be a repeat.

[original PM]

As a parent I know I make decisions which are best for my children - even though my children may not see that at the time.

When they GROW UP they will then start to understand why.

[GB9]

38% of the electorate decided, or about 26% of the UK overall. The other 74% (which includes children and EU citizens that don't get to vote) have it forced on them.

Hardly a shining example of the principle of democracy when you look at it like that. It should have required an absolute majority, and I'm not just saying that because I wanted the status quo to prevail.

WTF do you mean by 38% of the electorate? There were 33.5m votes cast. Are you suggesting that in a country of 60m there were 88m entitled to vote?

[VectraMan]

I would suggest that it is right that these people types don't get a chance to vote, and so the remainder who could vote were able to fairly do so, no ?

Where did you get the stats from out of interest ?

Children no, obviously not. Though there must be 16 year olds who voted in IndyRef that then didn't get to vote this time, which seems a little unfair. Migrants who live here permanently and pay taxes here should get to vote, and in fact do normally.

It's probably fair to say a higher turnout would have changed the result. Probably the polls saying Bremain meant a few less Bremainers bothered to vote, and younger people were less likely to vote and more likely to vote remain. So what we have isn't an accurate representation of the wishes of the people. But I do agree with the principle that history is written by those that show up.

52% * 72% turnout = ~38%. 16m / 65m = ~26%.

[OwlHoot]

I said it was a mistake for Farage to float the idea of a second referendum if Remain narrowly won, because it could be turned the same on a narrow Brexit win, and sure enough a commenter on that site drew attention to this:

Nigel Farage wants second referendum if Remain campaign scrapes narrow win - Mirror Online

[vetran]

Still in serious shock about the outcome and also at how many people who did not consider the far reaching social and economic impacts of their vote.

While it doesn't impact me as an Irish national living in Cloggers, it will have a knock on effect of getting contracts back in the UK, dependent on the outcomes of trade negotiations.

It does impact the possibility of me staying on here in cloggers as MrN being British we have no way of knowing what his status will be depending on the decisions the EU takes on the status of British expats in EU countries.

The other impact that this has is now that MrN is looking for a job in cloggers there is no fecking way anyone will touch him with a bargepole as a British citizen as they don't want to employ someone whose residential status is uncertain.

That is something that Camoron needs to deal with quickly.

They have 2+ years of stability.

They should be able to identify who can stay & move for work easily after Brexit fairly quickly. Then publicise it.


I assume if he becomes your spouse he becomes entitled to Irish citizenship? AIUI you have been together for many years so its only a bit of paper unless you need it to be more.