Brexit

[darmstadt]

They can't explain. They have no decent argument so resort to la la tactics and shout 'racist' even though they haven't a clue what it means.

Well as someone who has lived in a country where there were 2 doors into shops labelled 'Whites Only' and 'Blacks Only' I think I know what racism is...

[PurpleGorilla]

Our Nige & his wallpaper

One day you say you want the "good" migrants and then the next day you say you want lots of refugees in place of the workers.

I think you are desperately trying to escape the hole you have dug but you are too transparent and it isn't working.

Like all outters you are all over the place when challenged.

No, I never said I want 'good' migrants. I want migrants who fulfil a national skills and expertise need. I don't care where they come from as long as they are high quality high calibre candidates. This is exactly what a points based system is all about.

As for refugees, I think Cameron is right to screen the most vulnerable in Turkey and Syrian border countries.

There is clearly a goldilocks figure, not too many, not too few; which balances the complex issues involved. I have suggested a figure, which is more than anyone else has done on this thread.

[VectraMan]

I would like us as a nation to have some intelligent debate about who and how many.

Personally, I would like to keep net migration below 200000, with say 50000 for refugees.

We pretty much have that without the EU.

I'd like to hear the official Leave campaign announce that they plan to keep net migration of around 250,000 and see the reaction. The polls would swing heavily to remain overnight.

[vetran]

I guess you didn't understand all stek's points as living in a very poor country doesn't always equal living in a war zone.

In fact his last point is one you brexiters use to point out how the EU is damaging trade and the development of poorer nations.

I guess you didn't understand my point that living in a poor country doesn't make you an Asylum seeker.

Are you willing to give up your prosperity so they can come to the UK? Or do you like any sensible person believe we should make their country better?

Its the slums there or here decision. I would prefer they were there. It will cost us much less to fix over there.

I'm sure we are damaging smaller nations, with the EU's arrogance we are probably damaging them a lot.

[vetran]

We pretty much have that without the EU. I' mean its only 130,000 out that is more than the number of houses we built or school places we create

I'd like to hear the official Leave campaign announce that they plan to keep net migration of around 250,000 and see the reaction. The polls would swing heavily to LEAVE overnight.

FTFY

Don't you get it? Most people have had enough of mass migration and ghettos?

[VectraMan]

FTFY

Don't you get it? Most people have had enough of mass migration and ghettos?

Errr yes. That was the point. Why would more people vote leave if the Leave campaign told the truth that Brexit won't make much difference to immigration?

I know this thread went off in an entertaining, but dubious tangent, but I agree with what David Cameron said and all remainers have said which is that immigration is too high. We just don't agree that Brexit is any kind of solution.

[vetran]

Nige and his poster, oh and the original from back then:

Link to a picture of refugees & migrants

Look pretty similar don't they?

Shock horror pictures of refugees / Migrants look like refugees / migrants.

I suppose Bloomberg, The Telegraph, Huffington post are all strutting around their offices in Blackshirts?

Europe Faces Another Million Refugees This Year, UN Report Says - Bloomberg

If the last year has proved anything, it’s that the EU cannot be reformed

Weekend Roundup: Refugees From Global Disorder Land in Europe


Frankly the comparison undermines you. > 80% of these are economic migrants according to the UN.

wake up & smell the cut price Barista!

[PurpleGorilla]

Shock horror pictures of refugees / Migrants look like refugees / migrants.

I suppose Bloomberg, The Telegraph, Huffington post are all strutting around their offices in Blackshirts?

Europe Faces Another Million Refugees This Year, UN Report Says - Bloomberg

If the last year has proved anything, itâ€[emoji769]s that the EU cannot be reformed

Weekend Roundup: Refugees From Global Disorder Land in Europe


Frankly the comparison undermines you. > 80% of these are economic migrants according to the UN.

wake up & smell the cut price Barista!

Where is the integrated EU plan to manage this?

[vetran]

Errr yes. That was the point. Why would more people vote leave if the Leave campaign told the truth that Brexit won't make much difference to immigration?

I know this thread went off in an entertaining, but dubious tangent, but I agree with what David Cameron said and all remainers have said which is that immigration is too high. We just don't agree that Brexit is any kind of solution.

Half of overall migration is from the EU. These are recorded figures from a survey. We don't count them in or out. The suggestion is that we issued twice as many NI numbers to EU migrants as we believe are here so its probably near twice that.

If we stop that "270,000" then net migration would be 60,000 so tens of thousands. Of course as WE CANNOT CONTROL THAT NUMBER it is part of the solution to control it.

Slough Census Demographics United Kingdom

According to this there are 8693 polish people in Slough, every small shop is now labelled Polski Sklep so obviously they are big spenders.

[vetran]

Where is the integrated EU plan to manage this?

Once Mrs Merkel gets fed up with them they are all coming to stay at Bob Geldorf's place or with the Ballsups.