Brexit

[unemployed]

She rather do herself than have you touch her Moobie.

have you fornicated with any of them vodka bottles

[LondonManc]

They seem to wrongly think we have no democracy or sovereignty on these issues... No matter how much you show them we do. Its like common sense and facts are just filtered out in their brains.

Is that like when Tony Blair democratically led us into an illegal war?

Are you pro-Brexit?

No, nor am I pro-Remain.

I'm thoroughly pissed off with both sides who have continued to do nothing but speculate and slag each other off. Leave's biggest mistake was letting Farage lead the charge as this immediately allowed the Remain camp to play the racist game. Jo Cox's murder has compounded this with some liberals painting this mentally ill man as a typical Brexiter.

Remain have run with Project Fear, with Hameron and Gidiot going full-on Chicken Licken on us, declaring the end of the world if we exit. Simple fact is that both can currently blame Brussels for a great many things and if we exit will lose both that scapegoat and their extensive pro-cabinet gravy train.

Anyone who speaks up on either side is derided by the other side and dismissed as ignorant, but is generally speaking up from a point of view of self-interest. The simple facts are that we've continually being making a net contribution to Europe but nobody knows what will happen for definite if we leave. We also do not know what will happen if we remain in terms of tighter integration - currency, army, etc.

Migration is a separate issue; tackling the number of legal and illegal immigrants should be addressed whoever is in charge and we are failing to do so. That is a continued failing and responsibility must be shared between the current government, the previous coalition government and most of all Tony and Gordon's New Labour government.

If we were currently not in the EU and voting now to join it, would you? I would imagine most people wouldn't, given the financial instability within it, the national pride that many still have in the UK and the impending ability of 75 million Turks (and Syrians by association - they're granted access to get them off Turkish land) to wander visa-free across Europe come October.

[FatLazyContractor]

So glad I didn't go this year. Got a free ticket last year and had a wicked time, weather was just right. Been to one or two wet ones before and it's pretty hideous.

Do you drive a VW golf by any chance?

[dx4100]

Is that like when Tony Blair democratically led us into an illegal war?

Other than the usual anti-war sandal wearers I can remember most people being thirsty for blood back then...

[LondonManc]

Other than the usual anti-war sandal wearers I can remember most people being thirsty for blood back then...

I can't. I can remember Tony being portrayed as Bush's lapdog in many papers.

[Old Greg]

Can't say I've always seen eye to eye with George Galloway. But he makes some pretty cogent points about the EU here, and one can hardly accuse him of being racist and Xenophobic!

2016-05-23 George Galloway on why Goldman Sachs and the big US banks all back Remain

Sir, I salute your courage, your strength, your indefatigability.

[original PM]

Says it all really

[northernladuk]

What have I done?

I'll give you a clue. You've done it 738 times too many. 739 when you post some witty comeback.

[MrMarkyMark]

Other than the usual anti-war sandal wearers I can remember most people being thirsty for blood back then...

Including yourself?
Most smart people knew that dossier was a sham, however, agreed wasn't a popular view at the time.

[eek]

Should all new Brexit threads be polls to complicate the merging of threads?

Can you create a poll?