EU superstate

[DodgyAgent]

They love EUROs - hard currency that their own Govt can't any more to print easily and fook over people in those countries with massive inflation.

Also they love free EU trade zone - their own Govts are no longer able to impose massive duties on imports

So you are saying that the member states should surrender their sovereignty to the EU who according to you seem to know what they are doing despite the fact that the EU has now gone into a deflationary spiral like Japan.

[Mordac]

Who are "they"? US voters?

US voters can't REMOVE their president during their term. Only the Senate can remove them.

Likewise the President of the Commission and all the commissioners can be removed during their term by the European Parliament.

Neither the US senate or European parliament have ever done this.

Try Googling "Richard Nixon" and then get back to us....

[SueEllen]

Try Googling "Richard Nixon" and then get back to us....

He resigned before they could get rid of him.

Johnson and Clinton who were both impeached where found not guilty.

[Mordac]

The Commission is not equal to the UK cabinet.

Laws that the commission have proposed have been vetoed by MEPs so not even put to vote.

The proposals for laws come from members states, plus EU institutions.

The commission does boring admin things e.g. collecting their huge expenses and allowances.

1: I never said it was equal, merely the closest equivalent comparison in UK political terms.
2: FTFY

[rl4engc]

She can't.

Death penalty was abolished. It's one of the conditions of joining the EU.

Because the Queen had the power to do this and other things prior to us joining the EU, right?

Well done for spotting my meaning. I'll spell it out for you:

Our monarchy over the last few hundred years has had power transferred from the head of state (Monocracy) to a an elected government (Democracy).

The EU seeks that more power transferred from our democratically elected government (again Democracy), to an unelected commission (Dictatorship).

Seriously, if you're trolling, it's top class trolling -- to wit -- it's unclear whether or not you're trolling.

[Mordac]

He resigned before they could get rid of him.

Johnson and Clinton who were both impeached where found not guilty.

You mean, he jumped before he was pushed? Pushed by the US Senate?
Clinton I feel a bit of sympathy for. If I were married to Hillary I wouldn't have said "no" to a bit of a gobble from a young intern...Hardly corruption on a grand scale, is it? For that you have to look at the EU Commission.

[Mordac]

it is the liberal self loathing leftie way to take a position and defend it on every facet of an argument. why not just admit that the EU is undemocratic and argue the case for staying in. I am happy to conceded that leaving will be bad for the economy (at least in the short term.

So am I. And it's a small price to pay, IMHO.

[SueEllen]

You mean, he jumped before he was pushed? Pushed by the US Senate?

He didn't want to go down as the first successfully impeached president.

[AtW]

So you are saying that the member states should surrender their sovereignty to the EU

It's a marriage of convenience - as part of it some "sovereign rights" need to be forgone unless there is mutual agreement how they are used by ALL members.

[AtW]

He didn't want to go down as the first successfully impeached president.

Do you think he'd been ok to go down to jail as the SECOND successfully impeached president? I reckon not...