EU superstate

[DodgyAgent]

Because it's succeeded - countries want to join EU, rather than leave it - except the UK it seems.

It has done very well for eastern EU countries . It has enabled their people to travel abroad and prosper, made educational and other standards of H&S compatible/harmonised (though there is precious little labour movement) and it has made corruption more difficult. The price they are going to have to pay though is the EURO which they will be forced to join. this will erode any cost advantage they have with regards to outsourcing or manufacturing.
Unlike people like yourself who entrench a position and try to defend it on every count I take a different view. Without doubt there are many benefits to being part of the EU and even though I am a Brexit supporter I acknowledge that certain macro harmonisation of things like educational standards (do Bulgarian nurses have similar training to UK nurses) CRB checks, H&S (is it safe for a Polish builder to run a construction project in the UK for example) and even trade agreements are of great benefit to many countries (less to the uK as migration in the EU is all one way). I also believe that the UK should "weather" the storm of the Eastern EU states catching up to the point where it becomes attractive for a UK IT worker to get a job in Sofia or a nurse to work in Budapest.
My problem is to do with the agenda of the EU government itself and its relentless pursuit of power. It will take something seismic to tell these people that they are servants of the people of the EU and that their place is not to gather more power for themselves (how many of them have actually run a business) but leave it as it is and make what they already have work and make themselves more accountable.

[vetran]

I always liked the idea of the common market. Common minimum standards for quality, H&S , workers rights.

I don't like the race to the bottom, we could of allowed the accession states trade without freedom of movement for workers. That has just made our poor poorer and their middle class richer (its not dustmen coming over here).

The idea of a superstate scares the hell out of me.

[NigelJK]

Maybe the referendum question should be reworded?

'Do you want more Politicians and Bureaucracy? Yes/No

[darmstadt]

Give it up Unixman. These morons have been posting the same drivel for months.

Unlike Leave morons who have been posting factual and well thought out arguments

[PurpleGorilla]

Unlike Leave morons who have been posting factual and well thought out arguments

All BREMAINERS seem to do is insult BREXITERs.

"You are thick, racists."

15+ years of this crap.

The people are giving to say **** off to that.

[rl4engc]

Europeans should stand together rather than separate with selfish self-interests.

I'm no more a "European", than Che Guevara was an "American".

Europe is a continent; a land mass, one which we'll continue to trade with and cooperate with after we've left.

[darmstadt]

All BREMAINERS seem to do is insult BREXITERs.

"You are thick, racists."

15+ years of this crap.

The people are giving to say **** off to that.

Well you are....

[AtW]

It has done very well for eastern EU countries . It has enabled their people to travel abroad and prosper, made educational and other standards of H&S compatible/harmonised (though there is precious little labour movement) and it has made corruption more difficult. The price they are going to have to pay though is the EURO which they will be forced to join. this will erode any cost advantage they have with regards to outsourcing or manufacturing.

They love EUROs - hard currency that their own Govt can't any more to print easily and fook over people in those countries with massive inflation.

Also they love free EU trade zone - their own Govts are no longer able to impose massive duties on imports

[rl4engc]

When did you elect the Queen?

Don't disrespect our Monarch. She has the power to have your head cut.., oh, wait.

[SueEllen]

Don't disrespect our Monarch. She has the power to have your head cut.., oh, wait.

She can't.

Death penalty was abolished. It's one of the conditions of joining the EU.

Ahh now I know what those brexiteers want.....