Dear World, A reflection on the British Spirit

[vetran]

The Tariff increase is not the full story I suspect the EU revenge would be a lot more subtle.

https://fullfact.org/europe/tariffs-...ritain-and-eu/

What would Brexit mean for British trade?

[vetran]

So, if individuals do nothing, then individuals keep blaming others for everything that is wrong in the world
And the world becomes more tulipy because individuals are not prepared to SUPPORT their local economy and SUPPORT their local businesses, rather they find it easier to blame others do nothing for themselves.


If YOU want Britain to be Great, then YOU need to support British industry, British farmers, British shops. If you want to blame the EU for you not shopping locally, not buying British, then you are being a hypocrite.

I'm not blaming the EU for not shopping locally, I'm blaming China as that is where most of the goods come from.

British farms are paid not to produce by the CAP. Cheap food is imported to undercut British farmers.
British Shops & Banks are owned by overseas companies.
British goods are made everywhere but here or are outrageously expensive because industry and the government want it that way.

I'm being a realist, the only thing I can buy British round here is the baloney posted here.

[WTFH]

I'm not blaming the EU for not shopping locally, I'm blaming China as that is where most of the goods come from.

British farms are paid not to produce by the CAP. Cheap food is imported to undercut British farmers.
British Shops & Banks are owned by overseas companies.
British goods are made everywhere but here or are outrageously expensive because industry and the government want it that way.

I'm being a realist, the only thing I can buy British round here is the baloney posted here.

No, you're blaming everyone else.


So, is there no farm shop near you?
And is it your greed that means you won't buy "outrageously expensive" British goods?

[NigelJK]

If YOU want Britain to be Great, then OUR GOVERNMENT needs to support British industry, British farmers, British shops.

FTFY

[vetran]

No, you're blaming everyone else.


So, is there no farm shop near you?
And is it your greed that means you won't buy "outrageously expensive" British goods?

How is tractor production going this week comrade?

http://api.ning.com/files/5fO6-*bITR...398&height=600

[WTFH]

FTFY

Nope, you totally missed the point. You can't spend your life blaming everyone and refusing to so anything yourself.


"Our Government" doesn't buy your groceries for you and your family
"Our Government" doesn't say you must eat strawberries from Peru on Christmas day
"Our Government" doesn't say you must go to a local shop to try something, then buy it online from abroad for a few pounds less.


But it's easier for some to blame "Our Government" or "The EU" or "Big business" than to make a choice in how you lead your own life.

[rl4engc]

How is tractor production going this week comrade?

Pretty well according to the JCB boss, who backs a Brexit.

https://www.farminguk.com/news/JCB-C...xit_42061.html

Chairman of JCB Lord Bamford has written to his company's 6,500 UK employees to explain why he favours a Brexit scenario.

In the letter he said he was "very confident that we can stand on our own two feet".

He also said that more than 53% of all UK exports go to non-EU nations, warning that the EU has a shrinking share of world trade.

The businessman says he supported joining the Common Market but did not back it turning into a political union.

Lord Bamford told his employees that the referendum's outcome "will determine the future of our country" with a "lasting impact on the lives of our children and grandchildren".

His letter states: "I voted to stay in the Common Market in 1975. I did not vote for a political union, I did not expect us to hand over sovereignty to the EU.
"I certainly did not expect unaccountable leaders in Brussels to govern over us.
"So do I wish to remain in an EU of diminishing economic importance as it moves towards ever closer union? Or do I want us to pull out of the EU, reclaim our sovereignty and regain control of how we trade with Europe and the world?"

The JCB chairman told workers it was up to them to make a choice, but urged them to vote in the referendum.

Trade has been a key issue during the debate on continuing EU membership.

On Tuesday, Roberto Azevêdo, director-general of the World Trade Organisation, warned Britain's trade agreements might have to 'start from scratch' in the event of a leave vote.

He added new trade agreements for a post-EU Britain could take time as all Britain's trade commitments had been negotiated by the EU and would cease to apply in the event of the country voting to leave.

[WTFH]

How is tractor production going this week comrade?

http://api.ning.com/files/5fO6-*bITR...398&height=600

Perhaps we should as JC Bamford Ltd, rather than trying to pass responsibility on by claiming anyone who thinks personal responsibility is important is therefore a communist.


Rather pathetic of you - you can't argue your point so resort to name calling and pictures.

[NigelJK]

au contrere.

"Our Government" doesn't buy your groceries for you and your family

Nope but it does buy its groceries for the NHS, Army etc. And guess where they buy it from? The Army buys most of its meat (including Beef) from France y virtue of the 'tendering process' which means that the subsidised meat in France is cheaper than our own. And whilst I'm on my soap box, the most valuable lesson WE learnt from WWII was to be self sufficient in food.

"Our Government" doesn't say you must eat strawberries from Peru on Christmas day

What was that about being self determinate again?

"Our Government" doesn't say you must go to a local shop to try something, then buy it online from abroad for a few pounds less.

- You can't buy a Chinese knock off Jag (yet) but you can buy a Chinese Jaguar made by Jag.

Isn't Capitalism great?

[vetran]

Nope, you totally missed the point. You can't spend your life blaming everyone and refusing to so anything yourself.


"Our Government" doesn't buy your groceries for you and your family
"Our Government" doesn't say you must eat strawberries from Peru on Christmas day
"Our Government" doesn't say you must go to a local shop to try something, then buy it online from abroad for a few pounds less.


But it's easier for some to blame "Our Government" or "The EU" or "Big business" than to make a choice in how you lead your own life.

and you missed the point Our Government is paid to promote Britain. This idea that we all should go back to 1950 if we Brexit or feel Globalisation is too extreme is not very convincing.

If people want to buy reasonable quality food from a supermarket that is fair enough. Not everyone can afford the premium option.

Our Government should help business to compete. They don't because among other things they charge outrageous rents & taxes to small shops. They allow the import of very cheap goods that undercut our producers.

Its not Greenham Common its not the public's responsibility to camp out in front of Tesco's and complain or to impoverish themselves so some local farmer can make a mint on organic veg.