Convince me to vote BREXIT

[Old Greg]

Something to ponder (re: schools, hospitals, traffic, train journeys, housing etc.)...



"A net migration of around 40,000 a year is required .. to stabilise the population at below 70 million"

If the population stabilises at the same time as it ages, have you thought about what that will mean for the size of the workforce and tax base, age of retirement, health system etc?

[vetran]

If the population stabilises at the same time as it ages, have you thought about what that will mean for the size of the workforce and tax base, age of retirement, health system etc?

If you keep stuffing more people in you are just putting off the inevitable.

Its strange how active most 70 year olds are. Now the 90 year olds are getting a bit frail.

We need to grasp the nettle and sort out old age problems now.

Now if that means forcing people to save for care in later life then great.

[Old Greg]

If you keep stuffing more people in you are just putting off the inevitable.

Its strange how active most 70 year olds are. Now the 90 year olds are getting a bit frail.

We need to grasp the nettle and sort out old age problems now.

Now if that means forcing people to save for care in later life then great.

No. If the population remains the same while also ageing, it means that the size of the younger age brackets (e.g. 20 to 30) will get smaller. This will create a significant inter-generational imbalance. Could you advise of the economic implications?

[DimPrawn]

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Very important point. We are voting against the EU, not Europe. Let's be part of Europe whilst not controlled by the EU superstate.

[DimPrawn]

Brexit may be the best answer to a dying eurozone | Larry Elliott | Opinion | The Guardian

A different Europe is needed, but it is stretching credibility to imagine that the Europe of Greece and the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership can easily morph into America with the nice people in charge. The eurozone is economically moribund, persists with policies that have demonstrably failed, is indifferent to democracy, is run by and for a small, self-perpetuating elite, and is slowing dying. The wrong comparison is being made. This is not the US without the electric chair; it is the USSR without the gulag.

[vetran]

No. If the population remains the same while also ageing, it means that the size of the younger age brackets (e.g. 20 to 30) will get smaller. This will create a significant inter-generational imbalance. Could you advise of the economic implications?

Maybe it will be what would have happened if we hadn't just imported cheap young labour? We could have even done something about it.

1. As population fell housing costs would fall.
2. Services would be less stretched.
3. Working lives would be longer as the government would have upped the retirement age.
4. Dole claimants would be forced to contribute.
5. Racial tensions would lower as we would have fewer stupid ideas coming from countries sensible people flee from.
6. Wages would rise but so would mechanisation, expect to see lots of automated care homes & factories.
7.Britain would obviously fold because it can only survive by importing cheap labour.

[Old Greg]

Maybe it will be what would have happened if we hadn't just imported cheap young labour? We could have even done something about it.

1. As population fell housing costs would fall.
2. Services would be less stretched.
3. Working lives would be longer as the government would have upped the retirement age.
4. Dole claimants would be forced to contribute.
5. Racial tensions would lower as we would have fewer stupid ideas coming from countries sensible people flee from.
6. Wages would rise but so would mechanisation, expect to see lots of automated care homes & factories.
7.Britain would obviously fold because it can only survive by importing cheap labour.

Yes all very interesting I'm sure. But as you seem to be advocating stabilising the population by shrinking the size of younger generations, I would love to see your analysis of the impact.

[WTFH]

Stabilise the population, while encouraging young workers, by shipping off all the pensioners to Spain and removing their costs from the UK economy.

[Old Greg]

Stabilise the population, while encouraging young workers, by shipping off all the pensioners to Spain and removing their costs from the UK economy.

Who do you think pays for their pensions and funds their healthcare when they're in Spain?

[vetran]

Yes all very interesting I'm sure. But as you seem to be advocating stabilising the population by not artificially boosting the size of younger generations, I would love to give my analysis of the impact that has

FTFY


You are the one advocating meddling, however if we look at the Boomer generation before mass immigration (note the 60->90s was a small fraction of current migration.) they seemed to do quite well.