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Brexit won't stop EU migration

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    #21
    Originally posted by vetran View Post
    so their plan is to bully us into behaving the way they want us to, but other nations they are happy to trade with on different terms. Hmm I can see why we aren't keen.
    No its not that. The other nations don't have completely open access as Stek has noted.
    We may be able to get tariff access to the EU single market without EU rights of movement, but something will have to give for the companies involved.
    What's the betting it will be wages?
    Last edited by sasguru; 25 April 2016, 09:38.
    Hard Brexit now!
    #prayfornodeal

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      #22
      Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
      That was not my point. The EU as an institution will be forced to reform by a Brexit
      I doubt it. During the financial crises we saw with Greece that they simply doubled down with the disastrous economic polices, rather than allowing Greece to leave the Euro.

      I think many in the UK simply don't understand just how fanatical many of the EU ruling class are and what lengths they'll go to in order to keep their Imperial dreams alive

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        #23
        Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
        Most of the EU exports are food and most of the EU imports are food. So we grow some cabbages and are allowed to sell them to France, and France sells us some broad beans, without tariffs.

        It's a load of contrived nonsense.

        We will produce our own food and sell and eat it, and export cars, machinery, drugs, intellectual property and financial services to the whole world.

        EU is utter contrived, scaremongering, pointless, expensive, damaging, bollox.

        HTH BIDI
        Jeez, I hope you haven't had kids. IQ is mostly genetic you know.
        Hard Brexit now!
        #prayfornodeal

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          #24
          A free trade agreement isn't a binary switch.

          UK banks have the same privileges as Euro zone banks, they can access the ECB for financing and are under ECB regulation so they can trade Euro bonds.

          Pretty vital for London to remain the finance centre of the EU.
          I'm alright Jack

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            #25
            Seeing Brexit as a way to reduce immigration seems rather weak.

            the most recent data showed net migration of non-EU citizens at 196,000.
            http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/europpblog/20...ion-to-the-uk/

            You could reduce migration a bit, but it won't make much difference, it's not as if there will be no migration at from the EU.

            You still have 200,000 migrants coming in from outside the EU.
            I'm alright Jack

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              #26
              Originally posted by sirja View Post
              I think many in the UK simply don't understand just how fanatical many of the EU ruling class are and what lengths they'll go to in order to keep their Imperial dreams alive
              All that leads to is a bigger bang at the end.

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                #27
                Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
                Seeing Brexit as a way to reduce immigration seems rather weak.



                http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/europpblog/20...ion-to-the-uk/

                You could reduce migration a bit, but it won't make much difference, it's not as if there will be no migration at from the EU.

                You still have 200,000 migrants coming in from outside the EU.
                Good article basically confirming the premise of this thread.
                Question is I agree that there is too much immigration, but what to do about it, if in practical terms Brexit won't work?
                Hard Brexit now!
                #prayfornodeal

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by sirja View Post
                  I doubt it. During the financial crises we saw with Greece that they simply doubled down with the disastrous economic polices, rather than allowing Greece to leave the Euro.

                  I think many in the UK simply don't understand just how fanatical many of the EU ruling class are and what lengths they'll go to in order to keep their Imperial dreams alive
                  That may be so but unless economies start to improve and migrants are stopped then eventually the forces of Nationalism will take over. This will lead to the type of unrest that the EU was supposed to bring to an end. There is no sign that any of the EU economies apart from Germany who are literally ravaging the rest of Europe will improve.
                  Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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                    #29
                    A lot of UK citizens are fed up with immigration and high house prices. Odd considering that those are the only 2 things keeping the economy up.

                    UKIP got 12% of the vote at the last election.

                    It will be interesting to see how this will all end.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by sasguru View Post
                      Good article basically confirming the premise of this thread.
                      Question is I agree that there is too much immigration, but what to do about it, if in practical terms Brexit won't work?
                      This

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0gqn2F_Uu4
                      Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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