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    #41
    Originally posted by mudskipper View Post
    Do the girl horses and boy horses compete equally?
    Yes
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      #42
      Originally posted by mudskipper View Post
      I think you missed the 'but' in LM's comment. For most sports where men are better (if 'better' is defined as bigger, stronger, faster, further etc), there isn't significant interest (from men) in the women's game.
      Correct.
      Eventing gets equal coverage for men and women.
      Swimming generally does.
      In fact, it's mostly events where men and women compete together at the same venue, e.g. athletics, etc. (note that coverage is equal but viewing figures can vastly differ)
      So the bloke who quit was right.

      Ho hum.
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        #43
        Originally posted by LondonManc View Post
        Correct.
        Eventing gets equal coverage for men and women.
        Swimming generally does.
        In fact, it's mostly events where men and women compete together at the same venue, e.g. athletics, etc. (note that coverage is equal but viewing figures can vastly differ)
        So the bloke who quit was right.

        Ho hum.
        Do men's and women's beach volleyball get equal viewing?

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          #44
          There is such a thing as Mixed Hockey. And Mixed Doubles at Tennis. Notice how the pay packet is determined by the market forces.

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            #45
            Originally posted by NigelJK View Post
            There is such a thing as Mixed Hockey.
            And mixed doubles tennis. Presumably in hockey they have to field a minimum number of women, and that's exactly how many they do field?
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              #46
              Originally posted by Dactylion View Post
              Assuming you were attempting to name a sport where women are better than men - ROFPML!

              Put the world champion (womens) netball team against even an average mens basketball team and I would wager the mens team would win - given a little while to learn the rules.

              Saying Netball is a bit like saying - Womens shot putt....
              ie The world champion/record holder is a woman but the male record, with a much heavier ball, is much longer.. and the man could hurl the womens shot an awful lot further.
              Fail

              Men play Netball.

              In New Zealand it's a mixed sport.
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                #47
                Obvious solution is to make women's tennis extend to 5 sets, like men's. There is no way today's top women are incapable of playing 5 sets, and it would make the TV people happy, and the viewers, and the "equality" hardliners. Can't think of another sport where women actually do 40% less than the men.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by mudskipper View Post
                  I think you missed the 'but' in LM's comment. For most sports where men are better (if 'better' is defined as bigger, stronger, faster, further etc), there isn't significant interest (from men) in the women's game.
                  It is difficult to think of any definition of "better" wrt an objective measure of a sport than bigger/stronger/faster.

                  Subjective measures of "nicer to watch" for whatever reason are..... well subjective.

                  A true tennis fan might argue that it is much "better" to watch ladies tennis because:
                  a) You can see/watch technique easier
                  b) Skill/Technique is more important (rather than brute force)
                  Obviously for the last decade plus this has been eclipsed by the Williams sisters, among many others, use of brute force to obliterate the skill touch and technique of less powerful players.
                  etc etc

                  But it is still pretty inescapable that the top mens players would (easily) beat the top ladies players.
                  NB - I am not suggesting that "any" man could beat "any" woman... just that the best men would beat the best women.

                  I know you are open minded enough to acknowledge that the most widely publicised "Battle of the Sexes" matches weren't really "fair".

                  Riggs vs BJ King - Riggs aged 55 and long retired vs BJ King about 29 and a current top player
                  Everyone remembers that BJ King beat Riggs

                  Fewer people remember that Riggs had previously destroyed Margaret Court.
                  Court was the current ladies No1 (at 30 years old) and the match only happened because BJ King (a fiery advocate of equality - particularly wrt pay) wouldn't take up the challenge.

                  Also worthy of note is that BJ King learned a lot from Riggs slaughter of Court and totally changed her normal tactics to exploit the weaknesses of a relatively unfit old man.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
                    Fail

                    Men play Netball.

                    In New Zealand it's a mixed sport.
                    Err No - I never said that men didn't play netball
                    Netball, even in New Zealand is mainly a womens sport.
                    The top level of Netball is basically a womens sport - men are not allowed to play. Although there may be mens and/or a mixed netball tournaments.

                    I expect some men, in New Zealand and other countries, do participate on other womens sports and also that many men and women compete against each other in all sorts of sport - but this doesn't get past the fact that the best men are better than the best women.

                    My original challenge is still there - name one event or sport that women are objectively better at than men.

                    eg: Where a woman holds the world record/world championship etc.

                    If it helps I think that the world record for freediving has been held by women? (I don't know if it is now)

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by unixman View Post
                      Obvious solution is to make women's tennis extend to 5 sets, like men's. There is no way today's top women are incapable of playing 5 sets, and it would make the TV people happy, and the viewers, and the "equality" hardliners. Can't think of another sport where women actually do 40% less than the men.
                      Womens' games tend to go on longer though as each point is normally a rally due to lack of brute force to hit unreturnable serves and so on. Well so it seems watching, some stats would be useful.

                      a 5 set match of that would be Zzzz
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