Junior doctors

[SimonMac]

If you are that ill you can go to A&E.

Last time I checked if you were a medical emergency you can get treated in an NHS A&E department 24 hours a day 365* days of the year.




*366 on a leap year.

The weekend working they are trying to get the Junior Drs to agree to is for A&E, most have a Monday to Friday specialism (although some choose emergency medicine) and they rota weekend out of hours in A&E wards without having to pay them premiums for doing so

[NickFitz]

Letter in the Telegraph this week:

[d000hg]

If you are that ill you can go to A&E.

Last time I checked if you were a medical emergency you can get treated in an NHS A&E department 24 hours a day 365* days of the year.




*366 on a leap year.

Then you get loads of people going to A&E who aren't having an emergency and weren't involved in an accident.

Going to a hospital is an ordeal and a huge time-sink, not exactly a best solution. I see no good reasons the doctor shouldn't run 7 days a week, or at least Mon-Sat. Saturday is a working day now anyway.

[TheFaQQer]

I see no good reasons the doctor shouldn't run 7 days a week, or at least Mon-Sat. Saturday is a working day now anyway.

Nor do many doctors. Strangely enough, though, they want paying time and a half for the time outside "normal" working hours. Same as many people do.

[VectraMan]

Nor do many doctors. Strangely enough, though, they want paying time and a half for the time outside "normal" working hours. Same as many people do.

If Saturday is a working day then there's no reason to pay anyone extra.

Surely in their 6 years of medical school somebody would have told them that their chosen career means not being able to simply work 9-5 Mon-Fri? I don't see why you'd become a doctor and then demand time and a half for being a doctor.

And as for A&E, aren't we more talking about looking after people already in hospital? I was in hospital from a Monday to the Friday last year, but if I'd taken a funny turn in the night, or not been well enough to go home on Friday I couldn't have been expected to go to A&E.

[NickFitz]

Then you get loads of people going to A&E who aren't having an emergency and weren't involved in an accident.

Going to a hospital is an ordeal and a huge time-sink, not exactly a best solution. I see no good reasons the doctor shouldn't run 7 days a week, or at least Mon-Sat. Saturday is a working day now anyway.

Given that one in three trainee GP posts are empty, I think you should be more concerned about them managing to continue to offer a Monday to Friday service.

[NickFitz]

If Saturday is a working day then there's no reason to pay anyone extra.

Surely in their 6 years of medical school somebody would have told them that their chosen career means not being able to simply work 9-5 Mon-Fri? I don't see why you'd become a doctor and then demand time and a half for being a doctor.

And as for A&E, aren't we more talking about looking after people already in hospital? I was in hospital from a Monday to the Friday last year, but if I'd taken a funny turn in the night, or not been well enough to go home on Friday I couldn't have been expected to go to A&E.

Can you point to a single instance of a doctor saying that they should be "able to simply work 9-5 Mon-Fri"?

[Danglekt]

They already work weekends, you won't have felt the strike as junior doctors that work in emergency medicine (i.e. A&E etc) didn't join the strike as they didn't want patients in a very bad way to suffer. It's about as Ethical a strike as you can get.

This is tories who know they have a full term to be gits trying to stick two fingers up at some of the last professions not to have joined in the race to the bottom.

personally I wish them all the best, and applaud their resolve to stand up for their existing employment terms - they are a very committed group who don't deserve to be treated like this, and I don't see why anything needs messing with, junior docs already work weekends.

[SueEllen]

The weekend working they are trying to get the Junior Drs to agree to is for A&E, most have a Monday to Friday specialism (although some choose emergency medicine) and they rota weekend out of hours in A&E wards without having to pay them premiums for doing so

Rubbish.

The issue they have in A&E is keeping senior doctors or consultants as they are also called. I know two who keep f***ing of abroad to work when they get fed up of the NHS.

[OnceStonedRose]

Rubbish.

The issue they have in A&E is keeping senior doctors or consultants as they are also called. I know two who keep f***ing of abroad to work when they get fed up of the NHS.

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