Junior doctors

[OnceStonedRose]

Agreed.

I still remember a guy I was working alongside who had a cold. I asked him his symptoms told him it was a cold and told him what to do including telling him to go to a pharmacy. Next morning he was late in because he had gone to A&E early and had to wait 4 hours to be told he had a cold.....

You qualified to dish out medical diagnoses then? I know an industry soon to be crying out for this type of expertise love?

[DodgyAgent]

His Nuke option.

So the choices are:

We will now have full on strikes including the A&E departments.

Lots of "JD's" will pack in and go abroad.

JD's will stop doing any over time at all. They can do that. Work Time directive says so.

They can refuse to accept the contract and be "sacked".

They can all become "Agency Doctors". Now wouldn't that be a thing?

Or they can simply accept what Hunt has done to them. I can't see this scenario being the one that happens.

Hunt has achieved his aim.

Lets wait and see eh?

Who says that what Hunt wants is not unreasonable. After all he is a member of the elected government who's task is to deliver on pledges made to the electorate. junior doctors are part off a massive monopoly that would be happy to deliver whatever it is they wish to deliver. The doctors have no obligation to anyone other than themselves

[SueEllen]

Who says that what Hunt wants is not unreasonable. After all he is a member of the elected government who's task is to deliver on pledges made to the electorate. junior doctors are part off a massive monopoly that would be happy to deliver whatever it is they wish to deliver. The doctors have no obligation to anyone other than themselves

Which is why loads of them voted Tory.

On a more selfish level if the trigger for overtime payments and working too many hours is removed then I'm scared. I don't want doctors treating me who are absolutely exhausted.

[OnceStonedRose]

Which is why loads of them voted Tory.

On a more selfish level if the trigger for overtime payments and working too many hours is removed then I'm scared. I don't want doctors treating me who are absolutely exhausted.

Pretty sure this already happens. Got the scars to prove.

[NickFitz]

Who says that what Hunt wants is not unreasonable. After all he is a member of the elected government who's task is to deliver on pledges made to the electorate. junior doctors are part off a massive monopoly that would be happy to deliver whatever it is they wish to deliver. The doctors have no obligation to anyone other than themselves

Doctors have obligations to their patients. It's not like being a recruitment consultant; there's a strict code of ethics involved in the practice of medicine that expressly disallows acting solely in one's own interests.

[OnceStonedRose]

Doctors have obligations to their patients. It's not like being a recruitment consultant; there's a strict code of ethics involved in the practice of medicine that expressly disallows acting solely in one's own interests.

And they deserve a decent pay packet whereas agencies and their staff members.....

[DodgyAgent]

Which is why loads of them voted Tory.

On a more selfish level if the trigger for overtime payments and working too many hours is removed then I'm scared. I don't want doctors treating me who are absolutely exhausted.

There is nothing selfish about voting Tory

[FatLazyContractor]

I don't want doctors treating me who are absolutely exhausted.

Don't you have private medical insurance?

[DodgyAgent]

Doctors have obligations to their patients. It's not like being a recruitment consultant; there's a strict code of ethics involved in the practice of medicine that expressly disallows acting solely in one's own interests.

We have a strict code of ethics too enforced by the fact that we are subjected to market forces. "acting solely in one's interests" is defined how exactly? presumably going on strike is something they are doing for the benefit of us?

[FatLazyContractor]

We have a strict code of ethics too enforced by the fact that we are subjected to market forces. "acting solely in one's interests" is defined how exactly? presumably going on strike is something they are doing for the benefit of us?

Your clan will not think twice if selling your grandma on the high street fetches you an extra tenner.

Hope that helps