In or Out?

[jamesbrown]

so in all a 40-50% discount.

In other words, 2007 prices in much of the SE and 2013 prices in most of London

[d000hg]

I never knew Bill had such a poor grasp of English.

[DimPrawn]

I never knew Bill had such a poor grasp of English.

I think he failed English.

[OwlHoot]

Meanwhile, back on topic:

2016-02-04 Daniel Hannan: People expected a climb-down, but the renegotiation delivered an abject surrender

... The attempted renegotiation has shown beyond doubt that the EU cannot be reformed from within. If Eurocrats could not bring themselves to make concessions when their second-largest contributor was about to vote on leaving, imagine how vindictive they’ll be if we vote to remain.

The deal has, in short, has undermined Project Fear. Never mind the risks in leaving; we can now see the risks in staying. We can see the migration and euro crises unfolding across the Channel; we know that we’ll be dragged into them; and we know, now, that there is no way to protect ourselves within the existing treaties.

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So much for the idea that Eurocrats might make concessions in order to keep us in. The concessions will come only when we vote to leave. That’s when they’ll take us seriously. ...

The latter point, as two or three people have mentioned already one way or another in this thread, is an excellent reason for waverers to vote "NO".

[darmstadt]

Might be photoshopped but if not

[SueEllen]

Personally I think voting "No" will be interesting as we would end up with another referendum along the lines of "Do you really want to be out when we got more concessions?".

Though as there are more female voters than male voters in this country and if young people bothered to vote I think the outcome will be "Yes".

[jamesbrown]

Personally I think voting "No" will be interesting as we would end up with another referendum along the lines of "Do you really want to be out when we got more concessions?".

Though as there are more female voters than male voters in this country and if young people bothered to vote I think the outcome will be "Yes".

[DaveB]

Meanwhile, back on topic:

So much for the idea that Eurocrats might make concessions in order to keep us in. The concessions will come only when we vote to leave. That’s when they’ll take us seriously. ...


The latter point, as two or three people have mentioned already one way or another in this thread, is an excellent reason for waverers to vote "NO".

That latter point is also a huge assumption and not one I'd be prepared to put money on.

[SueEllen]

That latter point is also a huge assumption and not one I'd be prepared to put money on.

They bribed the other EU countries who voted "No" in their referendum.

If the UK votes to leave and does what is going to stop other countries leaving? Particularly wealthier countries with vocal vocal anti-EU parties.

The same way pressure was applied to ensure the Scottish voted to remain part of the UK, we are going to be pressurised to stay in.

[clearedforlanding]

Please vote NO!

I was just arguing over dinner with a bunch of Spaniards who were saying things were better before they joined the EU.

My argument that the EU gave them motorways, railways, potable water, money, ECB bailouts, job opportunities in the UK & Germany, cars other than SEATs, subsidies for agriculture and their governments overspending and corruption, functional airports and no border controls on their hashish & cocaine smuggling routes fell on deaf ears.

Girls covered in vomit with their knickers down, giving BJs in the street and men fighting over them in Magaluf was a small price to pay.