The Empire of The Shunned.

[clearedforlanding]

A trend that worries me, is repeated hostility to contractors who are just starting off.

Maybe I am missing the point, but those of us with decades under our belts, should offer our experience.

A new contractor who just cut the umbilical cord, for whatever reason may come here for advise.

What is more important? Stamping tenure in contracting in an internet forum on a new guy who couldn't even compete with many of us, or offering positive advise that may keep him off the bench?

We all started somewhere.

[SueEllen]

What are you on about?

I tell the new poster to search for things as it's quicker and then give them an answer.

Haven't you heard the saying about teaching a man to fish?

[Alias]

And the word you are looking for is advice :

[MarillionFan]

A trend that worries me, is repeated hostility to contractors who are just starting off.

Maybe I am missing the point, but those of us with decades under our belts, should offer our experience.

A new contractor who just cut the umbilical cord, for whatever reason may come here for advise.

What is more important? Stamping tenure in contracting in an internet forum on a new guy who couldn't even compete with many of us, or offering positive advise that may keep him off the bench?

We all started somewhere.

Yeah, let's All give good advice to the competition. Rightio.

[clearedforlanding]

Yeah, let's All give good advice to the competition. Rightio.

Healthy completion stimulates a market.

Are you telling me that the millionaire property owner, MF, sees a new entrant into the contractor market as competition?

[clearedforlanding]

And the word you are looking for is advice :

No, the word I was looking for began with 'W' and ended with 'R'.

[DaveB]

It's not so much hostility to new contractors, it's irritation at answering the same questions over and over again when definitive answers are, for the most part, provided via the links on the right hand sidebar of the site.

If people have read these and come back with some sensible questions based on reality then they get answered sensibly. Unless they post in General of course, in which case it's fair game until the Mods come and rescue them by moving it to the professional forums; or they post asking if some 90% take home scheme is legit, in which case all bets are off.

[eek]

Most newbies need to know 3 things.

1) That they need to read, understand and comprehend far more than they currently have - and the correct advice is already on this forum after 10 years of people asking the same questions

2) The world doesn't owe them a living however its not the first contract that is difficult to get but the second one as the money runs out

3) If it looks too good to be true, it probably is...

[BrilloPad]

A trend that worries me, is repeated hostility to contractors who are just starting off.

I could not agree more. General needs fresh meat. Lets lure the little newbies from professional forums with a trail of sweeties into general.

[BrilloPad]

Most newbies need to know 3 things.

1) That they need to read, understand and comprehend far more than they currently have - and the correct advice is already on this forum after 10 years of people asking the same questions

2) The world doesn't owe them a living however its not the first contract that is difficult to get but the second one as the money runs out

3) If it looks too good to be true, it probably is...

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