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The Falklands and Corbyn

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    #21
    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    I am planning to write a letter to her with £1000 donation expressing my deepest apologies for voting against her in two last General elections,
    Make sure its in a brown paper envelope that way you won't confuse her.

    Why do you think your single vote will change much, most wards are Red or blue for almost life.


    Korbyn will give the old reds a hard on but scare away anyone with a brain.

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      #22
      If Argentina didn't have a democratically-elected government that didn't feel the islands we're worth going to war over again, let's face it, there's nothing the UK could do to stop them from taking them. The only practical reason previously given for holding on to them was the possibility of offshore oil and I rather doubt that would be cost-effective to explore for now, so some kind of joint administration to share the costs of support seems to make sense. Unless you're going to tell me the islands are totally self-sufficient?

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        #23
        Originally posted by NigelJK View Post
        So this 'Socialism' really works then. Lets see:
        USSR? Nope
        China? Can't get shot of it quick enough.
        Anywhere else where it's actually worked?
        Oh yeah North Korea. Why don't you take a sabbatical and find out how well that works.
        Last time we had it here it caused the current mess (and no, the banks collapsing had nothing to do with our overspending on the state).
        As they say, he who does not learn from History is doomed to repeat it.
        Spend your way out of recession
        You're not getting it are you? Right policy for the right time, have a think about it.

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          #24
          I'd say that there never the 'right time' for any socialist policy in a capitalist society, and even in a socialist one they don't work (unless you are one of the 'more equal').

          The Falklands are (and have always been) militarily strategically significant (why do you think it was a Military Junta that decided an invasion was worth a try?), they are one of the entrance ways to Antarctica. These spurious arguments (particularly those concerning money) went on DURING the conflict, and we still went and defended our Sovereign soil.
          Last edited by NigelJK; 25 January 2016, 10:45.

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            #25
            Originally posted by seanraaron View Post
            If Argentina didn't have a democratically-elected government that didn't feel the islands we're worth going to war over again, let's face it, there's nothing the UK could do to stop them from taking them. The only practical reason previously given for holding on to them was the possibility of offshore oil and I rather doubt that would be cost-effective to explore for now, so some kind of joint administration to share the costs of support seems to make sense. Unless you're going to tell me the islands are totally self-sufficient?
            Groups of people have a right to self determination under the UN.

            The Falklands are British as they have decided to be in democratic elections.

            Until they decide otherwise then we and Argentina have to abide by their wishes.
            Last edited by SueEllen; 25 January 2016, 10:57.
            "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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              #26
              Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
              Groups of people have a right to self determination under the UN.

              The Falklands are British as they have decided to be in democratic elections.

              Until they decide otherwise then we and Argentina have to abide by their wishes.
              Or, if it's more cost effective, give them the option to evacuate or give up their passports. I mean we cannot afford to let people migrate to this country to work from within the EU apparently, but we can support islanders halfway round the world...?

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                #27
                Originally posted by seanraaron View Post
                Or, if it's more cost effective, give them the option to evacuate or give up their passports. I mean we cannot afford to let people migrate to this country to work from within the EU apparently, but we can support islanders halfway round the world...?
                they can live in Wales!

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Stevie Wonder Boy
                  Gibraltar is the real issue here.

                  The Spanish have much more of a claim to it, than the Argentine's do to the Falklands ... Well in reality the Argentine's have no claim whatsoever to the Falklands. If the UK starts to negotiate with Argentina, how far behind will Spain be with a very much more justified (in their eyes) claim to Gibraltar?

                  This is why Corbyn and his followers will never get into 10 downing street.
                  Have a look at a map. You've got to admit Argentina (and Spain) may have a point.

                  I don't want to support Corbyn, but he's not wrong when he says a peaceful solution would be better. How many billions do we spend defending a few hundred people on the other side of the planet just because they decide to call themselves British?
                  Will work inside IR35. Or for food.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by VectraMan View Post
                    Have a look at a map. You've got to admit Argentina (and Spain) may have a point.

                    I don't want to support Corbyn, but he's not wrong when he says a peaceful solution would be better. How many billions do we spend defending a few hundred people on the other side of the planet just because they decide to call themselves British?
                    I don't understand why either of them are relevant, but then I'm a godless foreigner.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by NigelJK View Post
                      I'd say that there never the 'right time' for any socialist policy in a capitalist society, and even in a socialist one they don't work (unless you are one of the 'more equal').

                      The Falklands are (and have always been) militarily strategically significant (why do you think it was a Military Junta that decided an invasion was worth a try?), they are one of the entrance ways to Antarctica. These spurious arguments (particularly those concerning money) went on DURING the conflict, and we still went and defended our Sovereign soil.
                      Are we defending the penguins of Antarctica now?
                      "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark Twain

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