Migration crisis is putting the UK at grave risk.

[darmstadt]

There are millions of people fleeing Syria. That's a fact; Sweden rejecting a fraction of that number of claimants for unknown reasons doesn't disprove that.

Don't forget the Yemen as well which is being bombed by the Saudi's with some assistance from British military advisers and remember that Saudi is one, if not, the largest consumer of the British arms industry. No wonder Dave loves them so much...

[darmstadt]

Just imagine...

- a country with no Muslims
- limited free speech, no liberalism
- an armored wall against other countries
- no old political parties
- no TV license
- no asylum
- no Euro or EU
- no money for Greece
- no social security payments
- no political influence from the USA and NATO
- no lying press

Move to North Korea

[LondonManc]

Just imagine...

- a country with no Muslims
- limited free speech, no liberalism
- an armored wall against other countries
- no old political parties
- no TV license
- no asylum
- no Euro or EU
- no money for Greece
- no social security payments
- no political influence from the USA and NATO
- no lying press

Move to North Korea

[MicrosoftBob]

You're going to refute it with credible sources?

So you want me to refute an unidentified unquoted 'fact' with credible sources ?

[MicrosoftBob]

The war has been in the news for a few years, but maybe it's been awhile since you've read a newspaper?

You presumably just wipe your bottom with newspapers rather than read them

[xoggoth]

2. People who think it's a human condition to not give a shiit about other people.

Like the pro mass immigration lobby who don't give a shiit about the effect on our citizens you mean?

Seriously, one can understand sympathy with real asylum seekers fleeing from awful wars but a majority of these people are frauds, economic migrants with false stories.

Six in 10 migrants arriving in Europe are economic migrants with no right to asylum, one of the EU’s most senior officials has disclosed. Frans Timmermans, the first vice president of the European Commission, said that the majority of those coming to the EU are not fleeing war or persecution.

Six in ten migrants not entitled to asylum, says EU chief - Telegraph

The number of individuals who sought asylum under the status of an unaccompanied minor rose dramatically from 354 in 2013 to a total of ]818 in 2014. Some 80 percent of these were classified as having a stated age between 15-17. Of those 818, DIS investigated the age of 282 refugees and found that 203 of them, or 72 percent of the questionable cases, were actually above the age of 18 despite claims to the contrary.

Scores of refugee 'kids' in Denmark are adults - The Local

[meridian]

Migration crisis is putting the UK at grave risk.

There are millions of people fleeing Syria. That's a fact; Sweden rejecting a fraction of that number of claimants for unknown reasons doesn't disprove that.

You're comparing two disassociated facts. Try comparing the number of rejected Asylum claims vs the total number of applications in that country.

Factor in the sheer amount of manpower and other costs associated with registering and processing claims, investigating their worthiness, ultimately rejecting them, paying for any health, welfare, housing, policing, while processing the claims, then trying to round up the rejected applicants and the cost of returning them to wherever they came from.

What a huge waste of money and resources that could have gone to help people genuinely in need.

[NotAllThere]

The war has been in the news for a few years, but maybe it's been awhile since you've read a newspaper?

First, someone would have to teach him how to read...

[SueEllen]

@xoggoth we did those on the number of refugees early in the thread where we concluded they were damn lies and statistics.

It's impossible to know where people are from by looking at them and even speaking to them briefly. You have to have a proper interview with them as it's well-known by customs officials that some nationalities are very good at pretending to be from somewhere else.

[stek]

I'm still coming to terms with the fact my son is in a jazz band....

He's on the right and he's wearing shorts for Christ's sake...