Finally.

[SpontaneousOrder]

Moore denies the well-established link between CO2 and temperature:



Refuted. Moore is a liar. Google his links to BHP and logging companies for the why.

"link" is a purposefully ambiguous word.

He says this:

As I have stated publicly on many occasions, there is no definitive scientific proof, through real-world observation, that carbon dioxide is responsible for any of the slight warming of the global climate that has occurred during the past 300 years, since the peak of the Little Ice Age.

And as you so confidently call him a liar, presumably you can point us to the definitive scientific proof that he asks for?

[LucidDementia]

Yes. And also there's the fact that....


Oh **** it, just take my money and leave me alone.

[pjclarke]

"link" is a purposefully ambiguous word.

He is a paid consultant to BHP et al. Plain enough?

And as you so confidently call him a liar, presumably you can point us to the definitive scientific proof that he asks for?

For one so pedantic, I would expect you to know that 'scientific proof' is a bit of an oxymoron.

I pointed you to the evidence previously, you didn't read it then and you won't now.

Moore was lying about there being no historical connection between CO2 and temperature. (I didn't watch the full video, one lie is enough for me. )

Greenpeace Statement On Patrick Moore - Greenpeace USA

[pjclarke]

Do any of the models work if you run them backwards? Because they aren't working very well forwards.

CMIP is the Coupled Model Intercomparison Project, as used by the IPCC. Looking at all the data they show skill. True, they have been over-projecting temperature since around 2000, however the planet is now catching up. 2015 is 99.99% certain to be the warmest year on record, by quite a margin.

[MicrosoftBob]

He is a paid consultant to BHP et al. Plain enough?



For one so pedantic, I would expect you to know that 'scientific proof' is a bit of an oxymoron.

I pointed you to the evidence previously, you didn't read it then and you won't now.

Moore was lying about there being no historical connection between CO2 and temperature. (I didn't watch the full video, one lie is enough for me. )

Greenpeace Statement On Patrick Moore - Greenpeace USA

That impartial lefty anti capitalist campaining organisation, so no bias there either

[NigelJK]

2015 is 99.99% certain to be the warmest year on record

Sensationalist.

Currently there's a large scrap going on between the 'official' El Nino projections and the one that's been more accurate, more often.

[pjclarke]

From the above graph we conclude that the ice ages are caused by cyclical changes in CO2 concentration.
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No - historically CO2 acts as a positive feedback - the glacial/interglacials are triggered by cycles in the Earth's orbit. CO2 acts to amplify the effects of the changes in insolation as slow changes in temperature cause it to be released from or absorbed by the oceans (mainly). This explains the 'lag'.

The difference now is that we are injecting the stuff directly into to atmosphere, so it is a forcing, not a feedback.

[DimPrawn]

Sensationalist.

Otorhinolaryngologist

Beat that!

[DodgyAgent]

No - historically CO2 acts as a positive feedback - the glacial/interglacials are triggered by cycles in the Earth's orbit. CO2 acts to amplify the effects of the changes in insolation as slow changes in temperature cause it to be released from or absorbed by the oceans (mainly). This explains the 'lag'.

The difference now is that we are injecting the stuff directly into to atmosphere, so it is a forcing, not a feedback.

Does it really matter?

[DodgyAgent]

Sensationalist.

Currently there's a large scrap going on between the 'official' El Nino projections and the one that's been more accurate, more often.

Notice they never dare say 100% just to cover their arses in case they get it wrong