Finally.

[pjclarke]

He cannot refute the logic as explained by Patrick Moore so instead he launches an ad hominen attack on you tube

Moore denies the well-established link between CO2 and temperature:



Refuted. Moore is a liar. Google his links to BHP and logging companies for the why.

[pjclarke]

One thing is certain, Paris has galvanised the developing nations.
India has agreed to severely reduce their plans to double the amount of coal use by 2020, Instead, at Paris, they agreed to double the amount of coal use by 2020.

India has 17% of the world's population, about 2.5% of emissions, per capita around a tenth of US emissions, I cannot put my hand on my heart and condemn them for not wanting to take a bullet while Americans light log fires in their homes for that authentic glow and and turn on the AC to maintain a comfy ambiance.

Paris was a sea change, the point at which the tide went out and we all got to see who is swimming naked. Tough for deniers I know, but there it is.

[pjclarke]

I did not say that CO2 has no impact on global temperatures. it is incredible that you zealots will stick like limpets not to the facts (they are selectively useful) but to control of a problem that may or may not be real (exploited to control human behaviour). You have failed completely to argue why the geo technical solution will not work and nor are you really able to logically repudiate the comments made by the Greenpeace founder. Instead you resort to sarcasm and sneers.

I was not sarcastic or sneering and Patrick Moore was not a founder of Greenpeace. Apart from that ...

[EternalOptimist]

India has 17% of the world's population, about 2.5% of emissions, per capita around a tenth of US emissions, I cannot put my hand on my heart and condemn them for not wanting to take a bullet while Americans light log fires in their homes for that authentic glow and and turn on the AC to maintain a comfy ambiance.

Paris was a sea change, the point at which the tide went out and we all got to see who is swimming naked. Tough for deniers I know, but there it is.

ooh er. that's good then, we agree that India should go for coal. and china.
everyone else I suppose

so ..errr

what was all the fuss about

[DimPrawn]

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I'm just really glad we aren't in the -8 deg C periods. I wonder how we would cope with most of Europe buried two miles deep in ice.

It also shows the so called "man made" aspect is tiny, and we've seen these peaks naturally in the past.

Also, why does it look like sometimes the temperature change is leading the CO2 change?

[BlasterBates]

From the above graph we conclude that the ice ages are caused by cyclical changes in CO2 concentration.

But who was driving the SUV'S at the time.

[DimPrawn]

From the above graph we conclude that the ice ages are caused by cyclical changes in CO2 concentration.

But who was driving the SUV'S at the time.

I conclude the scary thing, is that after the nice warm period we are in now, the temperature plummets to an ice age, that will destroy modern civilisation. So thank god for all the V8 driving boys and girls, we salute you!



PS, when you see the big picture, you realise the graph showing the last 50 years is a joke, with a ridiculous scale that proves nothing.

[DodgyAgent]

Moore denies the well-established link between CO2 and temperature:



Refuted. Moore is a liar. Google his links to BHP and logging companies for the why.

So the figures he quotes in the video are not true? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rkdb...ature=youtu.be

So we are faced in deciding which to believe. Patrick Moore in hoc to the big corporates or the scientists and socialists who owe either their living or the meat and bones of their ideology to the existence of climate change?

For instance did he lie about the climate changing from 4.6 billion years ago?

[SpontaneousOrder]

Do any of the models work if you run them backwards? Because they aren't working very well forwards.

[LucidDementia]

Also, why does it look like sometimes the temperature change is leading the CO2 change?

Probably because it seems to.

Just for giggles:



That little red line at the end is our "dangerous" bit.