Muslims and terrorism, do they just accept it?

[d000hg]

Even treating women like cattle ?

I think it's a bit of a stretch to say all/most Saudi men do that. Women used to be in a not dissimilar position in the UK but husbands still loved their wives, even if they were not afforded equal status.

[JohnP]

I think it's unfair to put people in boxes. Especially an entire faith. The problem with groups like ISIS is that they are representative of the twisted few. They are very dangerous agreed and need to be stopped. But so do the KKK. And here's the thing. The KKK claim to be Christians. So do you see people demanding the other white Christians out there condemn the actions of those sick individuals? because they are sick. Do you see anyone accusing Christians in general saying oh you must be like them! you hate all black people and others not like you! your evil!. No you don't.

It it is ridiculous to assume otherwise than the fact that the majority of Muslims who don't hold a not quite right in the head card do anything other than condem the actions of ISIS in France or condemn extremism in general. In my humble opinion. I am mixed race by the way my dad is South African and my mum English. Racism, ignorance and bigots make me sick to my very stomach. And you get a lot of that because of the actions
of bunch animals.

I think the most important thing to remember is that hate is what these groups thrive on. Whilst we stand divided in our communities they can feed on that. Same as the BNP and EDL scumbags, Same as the bigots that comprise of Britain First. I say stand together, and see people not colours races or religions. We are all the same.

[DodgyAgent]

I think it's unfair to put people in boxes. Especially an entire faith. The problem with groups like ISIS is that they are representative of the twisted few. They are very dangerous agreed and need to be stopped. But so do the KKK. And here's the thing. The KKK claim to be Christians. So do you see people demanding the other white Christians out there condemn the actions of those sick individuals? because they are sick. Do you see anyone accusing Christians in general saying oh you must be like them! you hate all black people and others not like you! your evil!. No you don't.

It it is ridiculous to assume otherwise than the fact that the majority of Muslims who don't hold a not quite right in the head card do anything other than condem the actions of ISIS in France or condemn extremism in general. In my humble opinion. I am mixed race by the way my dad is South African and my mum English. Racism, ignorance and bigots make me sick to my very stomach. And you get a lot of that because of the actions
of bunch animals.

I think the most important thing to remember is that hate is what these groups thrive on. Whilst we stand divided in our communities they can feed on that. Same as the BNP and EDL scumbags, Same as the bigots that comprise of Britain First. I say stand together, and see people not colours races or religions. We are all the same.

Another self loathing terrorist apologist comes out of the woodwork with a dubious interpretation of moral equivalence.

[Troll]

I think it's unfair to put people in boxes. Especially an entire faith. The problem with groups like ISIS is that they are representative of the twisted few. They are very dangerous agreed and need to be stopped. But so do the KKK. And here's the thing. The KKK claim to be Christians. So do you see people demanding the other white Christians out there condemn the actions of those sick individuals? because they are sick. Do you see anyone accusing Christians in general saying oh you must be like them! you hate all black people and others not like you! your evil!. No you don't.

It it is ridiculous to assume otherwise than the fact that the majority of Muslims who don't hold a not quite right in the head card do anything other than condem the actions of ISIS in France or condemn extremism in general. In my humble opinion. I am mixed race by the way my dad is South African and my mum English. Racism, ignorance and bigots make me sick to my very stomach. And you get a lot of that because of the actions
of bunch animals.

I think the most important thing to remember is that hate is what these groups thrive on. Whilst we stand divided in our communities they can feed on that. Same as the BNP and EDL scumbags, Same as the bigots that comprise of Britain First. I say stand together, and see people not colours races or religions. We are all the same.

Clearly we are not all the same - it wasn't ISIS that did the 7/7 bombings, the beheading of Lee Rigby,or the grooming and raping of children

As a group they (you?) don't appear to add any value to Western societies

[LondonManc]

An interesting read, very thought-provoking....

An Open Letter to Moderate Muslims | Ali A. Rizvi

[SpontaneousOrder]

I think it's a bit of a stretch to say all/most Saudi men do that. Women used to be in a not dissimilar position in the UK but husbands still loved their wives, even if they were not afforded equal status.

There were even laws such that if men didn't keep their wives to a certain standard they could be prosecuted.

Although 'used to be' is a pretty important distinction.

[minestrone]

The problem with groups like ISIS is that they are representative of the twisted few.

They actually represent the pure form of Islam.

[NotAllThere]

...The KKK claim to be Christians. So do you see people demanding the other white Christians out there condemn the actions of those sick individuals?...

You don't need to demand it they condemn it, because they do it. The IRA, UVF etc. are often held up as an example of Christian terrorism - but their actions were routinely condemned by church leaders; IRA members were excommunicated.

[SpontaneousOrder]

I say stand together, and see people not colours races or religions. We are all the same.

No, we're not.

[SpontaneousOrder]

I think we should be less tolerant of religion, full stop. Not violent about it, but it should be considered shameful to be religious.

Or, more specifically, I'm talking about people who get their morality from a book - if your religious views don't mean that then that kind of religion is a lesser transgression.

Here's the main reason:

If you get your morality from ideas of revelation, probably in a book, then regardless of whether you cuddle puppies, or chop off heads, by what standard are the two interpretations different?

I.e. if you don't think the bible tells you to blow people up, whereas some do, then by what standard is your moral code any better than theirs?

If you reject the reality that morality is the product of reason, rather than faith, then by what standard do you judge that your interpretation is correct and theirs is wrong? You sanction the idea that the interpretation of a book is what matters and not reason.

If you get your morality from revelation, then you're as guilty of what happened in Paris as the men who pulled the triggers.