Ten Ways Islamic Law Forbids Terrorism

[SpontaneousOrder]

Just wait for the angry brigade to come in and start posting all the same justifications that the extremists use, as evidence that Islam encourages terrorism.

ISIS etc are about as Muslim as the average poster in a Daily Mail comments thread.

Given that the Quran states that the penalty for apostasy is execution, I think you've fallen at the first hurdle. If keeping people in the faith by cutting off heads isn't terrorism, I don't know what is.

[SpontaneousOrder]

What utter crap. You may as well argue that the Spanish Inquisition was nothing to do with Catholicism. It is not texts or theories that define a religion, it is the realities, the actual views and practices of its followers.

Anyway, even if we say the terrorists and extremists and the Islamic states with no semblance of democracy are not truly about Islam, how does it help? Calling a huge problem by another name doesn't make it go away.

Yeah, Urban II's crusade was nothing to do with Christianity - because there were christians back home who didn't agree with the crusading.

[xoggoth]

Ok. So let's call all the extremists fake Muslims. Unfortunately, we can't easily tell the real Muslims from the fake ones so all this drivel helps not one iota.

Actually, to quote just that item demonstrates an ignorance of Islam. There are numerous versions. In one version of the Haddiths, Mohamed says an unfaithful women should be stoned as most would expect, in another he is quite a nice chap, merely advising separation. Why is one less "real" Islam than the other?

If you are trying to say we should not regard all Muslims as extremists I agree. The normal distribution of Islamic belief is greatly slewed towards fundamentalism compared to Christianity but it is still a normal distribution and treating the moderate as terrorists would be counter productive.

However, the main priority should be protection of our own society and that should certainly include halt of any further migration from Islamic countries or indeed of any migrants who are unlikely to succeed. Failure tends to breed resentment and a number of terrorists have been converts. Hopefully the EU will wake up after the Paris events.

[MicrosoftBob]

calm down. Its the type of lefty sophistry that 'proves' that it's not jumping from the fifth floor that kills you, it's hitting the ground.

nobody is to blame. I am thinking of inventing an automated hand-wringing machine to help the poor luvvies out

They have Jeremy Corbyn for that, he probably has a stack of apologies lined up for all his favourite friends (sorry I mean terrorists)

[SueEllen]

If you are trying to say we should not regard all Muslims as extremists I agree. The normal distribution of Islamic belief is greatly slewed towards fundamentalism compared to Christianity but it is still a normal distribution and treating the moderate as terrorists would be counter productive.

Yeah because you know all Muslims...

[EternalOptimist]

They have Jeremy Corbyn for that, he probably has a stack of apologies lined up for all his favourite friends (sorry I mean terrorists)

To be fair, he has expressed views that I can live with so far today. On the other hand he looks like a rabbit in the headlights and very far from leadership material. I would not want him representing the country right now.

[SueEllen]

To be fair, he has expressed views that I can live with so far today. On the other hand he looks like a rabbit in the headlights and very far from leadership material. I would not want him representing the country right now.

Corbyn is so "mature" that loads of commentators and Labour MPs are saying he won't be around for the GE in 2020 when he will be 71.

[NickFitz]

Given that the Quran states that the penalty for apostasy is execution, I think you've fallen at the first hurdle. If keeping people in the faith by cutting off heads isn't terrorism, I don't know what is.

Given that the Quran does not state that the penalty for apostasy is execution, I think perhaps it's you who has fallen at the first hurdle.

[SueEllen]

Given that the Quran does not state that the penalty for apostasy is execution, I think perhaps it's you who has fallen at the first hurdle.

It's the English interpretation he's reading via the Britain First website which is at fault....

[xoggoth]

Given that the Quran does not state that the penalty for apostasy is execution

No it doesn't but what does it matter what the Qu'ran does or does not say? It is realties that matter. There's a map of countries with apostacy laws here. Notice anything about them?

Which countries still outlaw apostasy and blasphemy? | Pew Research Center

Note that in Nigeria this law only applies to the Muslim states:

The Death Penalty in Nigeria