If Corbyn gets in

[tomtomagain]

Come an election you just know this will be repeated through the media

Well like it or loath it we live in a media age. Every ill-thought out utterance he has made during his 32 years of being an MP will be trawled over and repeated and repeated.

And I bet there is an awful lot of it.

Thing is when people are being ignored they tend to ratchet up the rhetoric, taking more and more extreme positions to try and get some "air time". Just ask Suity.

[d000hg]

Corbyn can get in. That is the point. His policies appeal to the "majority" who will vote for him. Corbyn is a mammoth juggernaut that is gaining so much traction that I wont be surprised if there is a snap elections in two years time when the population would want him installed as PM. He is the only hope for millions in this country to have a better life.

Silliness aside, how is he going to call a snap election? Why is Cameron going to offer him one?

[Eirikur]

Silliness aside, how is he going to call a snap election? Why is Cameron going to offer him one?

Cameron will hold one as soon as the poles show the total annihilation of Labour

[AtW]

Cameron will hold one as soon as the poles show the total annihilation of Labour

It's fixed term Parliament now, the only way new election can be held if Cameroon resigns and Osborne gets in ...

[unixman]

Radio 5 yesterday. The four Labour candidates answering questions. Somebody asked a question on managing the economy. Of all the answers, I think Corbyn's was the only one that did not mention the word "economy". Reminded me of that Milliband speech where he "accidentally" failed to mention immigration or the defecit, the two biggest issues among voters at the time.

[Jog On]

No he doesn't.

He really, really appeals to a small vocal left. The out of favour socialists and Marxists. The unemployed and the feckless. People who have been ignored for years but there aren't enough of them to get him into power.

He might manage to hold onto some Labour heartlands .... but that doesn't count because he has to be able to appeal to voters in the Tory dominated country.

You just have to look at the crowds he's pulling in almost everywhere he goes to see that his appeal is quite large. He's galvanised the 'apathetic - what's the point in voting you only get the same old same old' crowd, he's got the 'Russell Brand/Greenpeace/anti-war/Occupy/activist' crowd. And anyone else who's had enough of inequality and corrupt government sponsored by big big business, super rich and old money.

This is not a Tory dominated country - not by any stretch, they got 25% of the vote because there was really not much alternative.

Now there is and people are coming out in droves - just look at his following, the guy's a rock star and nobody cares what the establishment try and throw at him.

People want sweeping and fundamental change it would appear...

[DodgyAgent]

You just have to look at the crowds he's pulling in almost everywhere he goes to see that his appeal is quite large. He's galvanised the 'apathetic - what's the point in voting you only get the same old same old' crowd, he's got the 'Russell Brand/Greenpeace/anti-war/Occupy/activist' crowd. And anyone else who's had enough of inequality and corrupt government sponsored by big big business, super rich and old money.

This is not a Tory dominated country - not by any stretch, they got 25% of the vote because there was really not much alternative.

Now there is and people are coming out in droves - just look at his following, the guy's a rock star and nobody cares what the establishment try and throw at him.

People want sweeping and fundamental change it would appear...

He has galvanised all the lefties most of who do not have proper jobs or work for the state and take time off to "protest". The left protest more because their beliefs are about their own prejudices and "issues" and hold little credibility when held up to any sort of scrutiny. So yes there will be the usual mix of the entitled including socialist workers (oxymoron if ever there was one) and occupy

[Jog On]

You are a perfect illustration why Corbyn would be humiliated in a GE.

The Tories got 36.6% of the vote, not 25%. Following through your supposition that every person who didn't vote Tory would equally hold true for Socialists. This country isn't a Labour dominated country either. Less so than Tory as they only got 30% of the vote.

Facts don't seem to live in your world. I'm no real cheerleader for the Tories, but realistically 80% of the UK is not going to vote for a Corbyn led Labour party.

Only 24% of those eligible to vote actually put a cross next to a Tory candidate on their ballot paper.

Victory? Most people didn't actually support the Tories - or their harsh new policies - Mirror Online

The 'facts' I was presenting are the public support for a politician and political movement that I've never seen happen before. You just have to look at the attendance of his events, the comments on every smear article and social media support.

You can sneer at him all you like but the establishment are still preparing for the very real prospect of an honest politician with the backing of a lot of people getting into a position of influence.

What could possibly go wrong?!

Sneer away - it won't change what is happening

[Jog On]

He has galvanised all the lefties most of who do not have proper jobs or work for the state and take time off to "protest". The left protest more because their beliefs are about their own prejudices and "issues" and hold little credibility when held up to any sort of scrutiny. So yes there will be the usual mix of the entitled including socialist workers (oxymoron if ever there was one) and occupy

yes dear xx

[Danglekt]

not read all the thread - but I think the rise of Corbyn is because everyone is completely sick of mainstream politics and the media trained meffs that don't think of anything other than getting their own skins back into power next time.

At least this fella stands for something, and if he is to be believed (and I am not suggesting he should be - as I don't trust any of them) he is proposing working across the party and newly engaged electorate to develop policies which actually reflect the view of the people that politicians are meant to represent.

With those policies at the core of a refreshed opposition, the face can change to a more palatable one, but with a core of genuine polices that people can support, as opposed to a different shade of tory that new labour ended up being.

I doubt it will happen, and it might have a knock on impact in terms of credible alternatives, but at least after thats all done there will be a credible alternative that doesn't swing it's views with every opinion poll.