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    #41
    Originally posted by xoggoth View Post
    From a practical viewpoint I don't wholly disagree with his position. In the end, to solve any conflict, you have to be at least prepared to negotiate with the extremists. Talking to the moderates usually isn't going to solve anything as they have no influence. In NI it was those like Adams and Paisley whose agreement ended the worst of the tensions.
    What a silly thing to say. Any Conflict. ??

    I think what you mean is, 'the recent conflicts we have been involved in, have involved extremists, and may have been resolved via negotiation'
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      #42
      Just voted :
      merely at clientco for the entertainment

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        #43
        Originally posted by eek View Post
        Just voted :
        Was it an online vote, or postal ?
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          #44
          Originally posted by EternalOptimist View Post
          Was it an online vote, or postal ?
          online which I wasn't aware was an option...
          merely at clientco for the entertainment

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            #45
            Originally posted by MicrosoftBob View Post
            Corbyn supports people whose stated aim is just that, but supporting terrorists seems to be PC for lefties
            One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

            Both sides in the middle east regard each other as terrorists.

            Right-wingers around the world seem pro-Israel, left wingers are pro-Palestine generally.

            Corbyn as leader would lose Labour more votes every time he opened his mouth.
            The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't exist

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              #46
              Originally posted by LondonManc View Post
              One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

              Both sides in the middle east regard each other as terrorists.

              Right-wingers around the world seem pro-Israel, left wingers are pro-Palestine generally.

              Corbyn as leader would lose Labour more votes every time he opened his mouth.
              Which oddly enough appears to be the opposite of what is happening at the moment. Membership is soaring and it appears to be largely on the back of Corbyn being a candidate and speaking his mind about the policies he belives in.

              Even if all the new members have joined up specifically to vote for him, that still wouldnt account for the fact that he is, by all estimates, the run away leader in the polls at the moment. Exisitng members are voting or intending to vote for him. If that translates to the general population then he would actually attract more labour voters, not less.

              Bear in mind that all those who are claiming he will drive voters away or make Labout unelectable have a vested interest in that being the true.

              The point they seem to be missing is that on the basis of the last election Labour are unelectable now. And that is down to the current / recently ex-leadership, including Burnham, Cooper, Kendal et al.
              "Being nice costs nothing and sometimes gets you extra bacon" - Pondlife.

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                #47
                Originally posted by DaveB View Post
                Which oddly enough appears to be the opposite of what is happening at the moment. Membership is soaring and it appears to be largely on the back of Corbyn being a candidate and speaking his mind about the policies he belives in.

                Even if all the new members have joined up specifically to vote for him, that still wouldnt account for the fact that he is, by all estimates, the run away leader in the polls at the moment. Exisitng members are voting or intending to vote for him. If that translates to the general population then he would actually attract more labour voters, not less.

                Bear in mind that all those who are claiming he will drive voters away or make Labout unelectable have a vested interest in that being the true.

                The point they seem to be missing is that on the basis of the last election Labour are unelectable now. And that is down to the current / recently ex-leadership, including Burnham, Cooper, Kendal et al.
                Will the left now see a splinter a bit like UKIP? Certainly going to be interesting but the creation of more parties will inevitably lead to more weak coalition governments.
                The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't exist

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by LondonManc View Post
                  One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter...
                  Often used by apologists for terrorists, and utter rubbish. It's entirely possibly to be a freedom fighter and use (or not use) terrorism as a tactic.
                  Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!

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                    #49
                    Iran relations 'important' but Hammond urges caution - BBC News

                    On Sunday, the British embassy in Iran reopened, nearly four years after it was closed after it was stormed by protesters during a demonstration against sanctions.

                    Mr Hammond is the first UK foreign secretary to visit Iran since 2003.

                    He said Britain and Iran had a "difficult history", but relations had been steadily getting better and reopening diplomacy was a "sensible way forward".
                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_a...ored_terrorism
                    Iran supplies political support and weapons to Hamas, an organization classified by Israel, the United States, Canada, the European Union, Egypt, Australia and Japan as a terrorist organization
                    Iran has supplied the militant organization Hezbollah with substantial amounts of financial, training, weapons (including long range rockets), explosives, political, diplomatic, and organizational aid while persuading Hezbollah to take an action against Israel.
                    Irony, anybody?
                    "Being nice costs nothing and sometimes gets you extra bacon" - Pondlife.

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                      #50
                      All terrorists are equal...

                      ....but some are more equal than others
                      "Is someone you don't like allowed to say something you don't like? If that is the case then we have free speech."- Elon Musk

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