Why we MUST ditch our lazy attitude to finding work through agents and agencies

[VectraMan]

Don't know what you are drinking but what you and HMRC don't understand is that not all contractors take contracts within commuting distance of where they live.

This can be due to where they live now not having any industry for their skills.

Not all permies take jobs within commuting distance of where they live. So why don't they get expenses too?

Make it the same for everybody.

[DimPrawn]

Where's this quote from DP?

Front page of CUK. You DO read CUK don't you?

How HMRC is revoking tax relief on contractor expenses :: Contractor UK

[BrilloPad]

Not all permies take jobs within commuting distance of where they live. So why don't they get expenses too?

Make it the same for everybody.

Permies get a lot of things that contractors don't. Holiday pay. Sick pay. I am sure there are loads more.

[d000hg]

Ta. I only come visit the forums

[eek]

Do you think IT workers are they only people incorporated to be tax efficient? On these forums alone we have had social workers and doctors asking for advice.

If we can move to a system where contractors are the specialist consultants who can pay themselves in the way that they do rather than 2/3rd line support people or (sorry to say this to the code monkey friends I have) developers who are needed to fill a resource gap maybe this would be better.

Yep. I'm coming to the conclusion that the only solution is something like anyone employed via an agency and paid less than national living wage (times x say 2) should be treated as subject to SD&C anything above is not SD&C.

It's hideous (and I really don't like it) but HMRC want something simple that works, the unions who screamed during the discussion phase don't want their members forced into using limited companies and end clients will want an easy to follow rule which means they don't need to take risks.

[The Spartan]

Not all permies take jobs within commuting distance of where they live. So why don't they get expenses too?

Make it the same for everybody.

Because they didn't negotiate them when taking the job

[Bacchus]

No it wouldn't. Supply will drop and offshore companies will have a field day...

... that's what I meant by "(I do think it will result in severe labour shortages and "Bobbification" though )",

I think it will be a bit of both - supply and demand is page one of any economics course - but if it doesn't then we'll have to adapt. The world turns.

[The Spartan]

Permies get a lot of things that contractors don't. Holiday pay. Sick pay. I am sure there are loads more.

bonuses, career progression, training etc

[DimPrawn]

Not all permies take jobs within commuting distance of where they live. So why don't they get expenses too?

Make it the same for everybody.

We are not the same as permies. FFS, where's my employment contract? Where's my pension, health cover, sick pay? Where's my holiday pay and entitlement? Where's my rights to a tribuneral, where's my legal pay for being made redundant?

Why aren't you paying employers NI? Why don't you charge VAT on your salary?


We aren't ******* permie staff! Simples!

[BrilloPad]

bonuses, career progression, training etc

And an invite to the Christmas party! Where contractors are invited they usually have to stump up.

Cycle to work scheme.

Life insurance.

Health care.